* Present: + Markus, David, Michael M, Norbert, Astron, Petr, Thorsten, Kohei, Eike, Stephan, Michael S, Bjoern, Kendy, Joel
* Completed Action Items + kill legacy stlport packaging (Stephan) + interactive android/remote debugging with Astron on IRC (Thorsten) + moved check-boxes etc. now working for Astron + remove Accessibility API use / sample from odk (Thorsten) + BSA: sanity check: version reported == last-known-working version is not a regression (Rob Snelders) + can BSA add the version to the comment as well (Rob Snelders) + update the 4.0 release notes wiki page to explain DocumentInfo (Michael S) + persuade Thorsten of final MSI / pkg naming / resting place (Kendy) + will switch with lodev -> libreoffice, unhelpful timing RC1 * Pending Action Items + [pending] add impress remote shots to features wiki page (Thorsten) + create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M) + minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern) + disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael) + need to rename the MIGRATED flag and unwind / test re-migration (Michael) + tweak the configure defaults (Kendy) + no submodules by default, no gnome-vfs + mail details on signing etc. to Caolan (Fridrich) + needs a GPG public key from Caolan, punted to Jan. * Release Engineering update (Petr) + 4.0 timeline: + Beta2 - thanks to all for bug fixes & build cleanups, easy to build and tag on Tuesday. + trouble with the windows build performance & reliability + binaries a bit later than usual, expected this week. + Beta2 is the last beta + can push bug-fixes to 4.0 branch without review until RC1 + any larger bug-fixes: good to do now. + plan to branch libreoffice-4-0-0 2 weeks after RC1, Jan 24th (for RC2) + completing generic / Linux builds -> RedHat (Caolan) + fdo#58165 - drop stdlibs foo * UX input (Astron) + Impress-remote + needs a new whiteboard for some things that can be fixed AI: + some on-line help creation would be useful, help appreciated + TCP remote requires 'experimental' enabling AI: + should we hide that in the app itself too ? (Thorsten) + template manager / progress (Cedric) + ongoing, still concern / discussion about UI + adding a first item (on the left) close button to the incremental search bar requested cf. firefox. AI: + update the existing bug to an easy-hack 58526 (Michael) + question from Mirek: update on ? + full-word selection / editing ergonomics cf. UX-advise + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46517 + pending input from Caolan / Cedric / Michael S * gnome-vfs / dependencies issues (Bjoern/Fridrich) + why is this not cleanly failing on Ubuntu latest ? + getting hangs on this AI: + disable gnome-vfs for now on linux builds for RC1 (Fridrich) + gio uses FUSE anyway by default these days + are these crasher guys installing the stdlibs packages ? could that be the result ? + going to drop stdlibs as/when RHEL5 build-bot + RHEL5 future: + could potentially build with newer glib => gio + new dbus menu bits conditional on gio - needs fixing and a configure conditional. * Tinbuild2 / callgrind performance testing (Norbert) + work ongoing, needs more integration / logging bits * Certification Committee update (Kendy/Stephan/Bjoern) + need to audit bug fixes for non-triviality & ask + work on mail to encourage them to get certified (Kendy/Stephan/Bjoern) + mail proposed, needs review, grammar checking & work underway * removing generic backup-file names from .gitignore (Norbert) + anything not created by the build should be not be in .gitignore + git clean doesn't work well due to .gitignore (Fridrich) + on windows cygwin core files are big & need removing + .gitignores are stackable ? can have ~/.gitignore (Stephan) + not want to be too strict - leave generic *~ stuff (Norbert) AI: + remove overly lame .gitignore entries (Norbert) * FOSDEM schedule - volunteer needed: (Markus) + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/Fosdem2013 + Easy QA introduction: bug triage etc. 15mins AI: + ask Cor/Sophie/Florian R if they would take this one (Thorsten) + Joel volunteers to produce slideware AI: + how to debug spreadsheet file-format issues (Markus) AI: + how to debug writer file-format issues (Miklos) AI: + add: language-tags how they clean up our l10n story (Eike) AI: + types.rdb removal / re-writing (Stephan) AI: + hacking on the new android / impress-remote (Thorsten) AI: + hacking on CMIS / the new template dialog (Cedric) AI: + misc. new interop. feature and their development (Tibby) * Features - please update: + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.0 AI: + add the Templates UI there (Cedric) * 4.0 completed tasks: + remove Accessibility API use / sample from odk (Thorsten) + disable legacy stlport packaging for Linux + Mac (Stephan) + can we extract the stlport dll from Beta1 and provide a release-note about Duden ? (Fridrich) + leave for a few RC's and see what happens (Thorsten) + Rene is removing stlport conditionals in Debian (Bjoern) * 4.0 pending tasks + binfilter: + warn on legacy file-types with helpful dialog (needs owner) + drop Mozilla mess in the tree: + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56902 + lots of cleanup in configure + MSI file re-name to be renamed for 4.0 LibreOffice (Kendy) + pain / fixing for PHP / download scripts (Thorsten) + user migration path thought / testing (Michael) + still issue with 'MIGRATED' flag, esp. on Windows + Mac + Unix / LDAP addressbook support disappeared: + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57417 + close that wontfix & release-note it ? + Mac build / signing (Norbert/Thorsten) + technical problem of how to sign it all without signing each package ? + Windows build / postprocess now signing every binary in Beta2 (Fridrich) AI: + can we re-use that for Mac (Thorsten) * Proposed easy-hacks -> Easy Hacks (Joel) + developers need to decide what to do next + punting for a month ? + re-visit finding devs to build code-pointers for these: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=147895&status_whiteboard_type=anywordssubstr&query_format=advanced&status_whiteboard=ProposedEasyHack&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&product=LibreOffice * Hard Hacks: + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks + mostly suspended until post 4.0 release. * QA update (Joel) + BSA update + Rob Snelders - a hero, fixed everything we asked for. + Testing Marathon (QA) + 10x new guys in the chat-room helping out + 3-5 new people helping out which is great AI: + get update with stats for wordpress to Michael (Joel) + no about 70 unconfirmed bugs vs. 4.0 + be nice to see how Moztrap worked out (Bjoern) + QA no more meetings until mid January + .net framework, multiple installation bugs in Windows + people without the new .Net can't install + error message sublimely generic and unhelpful. + before building with .Net 2.0, but new compiler produces newer assemblies. Can we force the new compiler to build old bytecode ? not with the MS compiler (sadly) AI: + still chasing the issue - not for B2 (Tor / Fridrich) + fixed Joel's favourite bug of the week: + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57953 + -very- impressed & pleased by the QA work in bugzilla (Michael) + bisecting down to a single git hash in many cases - just excellent work ! - thanks to guys who did that. + currently have six bibisected bugs open: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?f1=status_whiteboard&list_id=191429&o1=substring&query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=PLEASETEST&v1=bibisected40&product=LibreOffice * No meeting next week (Michael) * Open 4.0 MAB / regressions + 13 (of 48) older 13/41 9/34 10/34 11/31 6/21 4/18 3/16 3/14 2/13 27% 32% 26% 29% 35% 29% 22% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1 * 3.6 most annoying bugs ... + 37 (of 164) older 34/160 35/158 32/153 31/152 33/150 34/148 35/145 33/139 23% 21% 22% 21% 20% 22% 23% 24% 24% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1 * 3.5 most annoying bugs ... + 50 (of 266) older 54/268 62/277 64/279 65/279 65/278 69/278 69/279 75/278 19% 20% 22% 23% 23% 23% 25% 25% 27% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1 * all bugs tagged with 'regression' + 230(+11) bugs open of 1030(+30) total * ~Component count net * + Writer - 87 (-7) + Presentation - 24 (+1) + Spreadsheet - 21 (+4) + Crashes - 21 (+4) + Database - 16 (+1) + Drawing - 15 (+2) + LibreOffice - 17 (+3) + Borders - 10 (+1) + Basic - 4 (-1) + Migration - 5 (+0) + Writer / RTF - 4 (+1) + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764 + Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489 * Punted items until 2013: + fdo#49306 FILEOPEN catastrophically bad import of one specific .doc (Lionel) + waiting for Lionel. + presenter-console patches to back-port to 4.0 ? (Ahmad) + can we get a set of hashes of patches we need from master in 4.0 ? + how is that going ? + Widget layout localisation performance + lots of .ui files to localise per language slow ... -- michael.me...@suse.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted