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omongan lu cuma debat kusir melulu jauh dari kebenaran orang sehat! ________________________________ From: item abu <item...@yahoo.com> To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" <proletar@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [proletar] The Disgraceful and Distressing Things Ibn Hisham Omitted from Ibn Ishaq’s Biography of Muhammad Krn lu goblok, maka lu ga bisa liat kebenaran omongan gua. From: Musik hari Ini <musikhari...@yahoo.com> >To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" <proletar@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:58 PM >Subject: Re: [proletar] The Disgraceful and Distressing Things Ibn Hisham >Omitted from Ibn Ishaq’s Biography of Muhammad > > > >Tem tidak bermutu postingan elu.........lama2 malah jadi memuak kan >buang2 waktu baca postingan elu.....perlu diblock kayaknya >susah ururusan dengan manusia yang tidak punya rasa malu!....menjijik kan > >________________________________ >From: item abu <item...@yahoo.com> >To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" <proletar@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:48 AM >Subject: Re: [proletar] The Disgraceful and Distressing Things Ibn Hisham >Omitted from Ibn Ishaq’s Biography of Muhammad > > > >Hehehe... yg bikin biografi si keparat itu rata2 adalah orang Islam, dan >mereka emang ngasih info yg menyesatkan. > >Si Ibn Hisham aja ngaku dia udah ngehilangkan info ttg kebejadan atau >kekonyolan si keparat yg ada di sirat Ibn Ishaq. Berarti si Ibn Hisham itu >udah nyesatkan orang Islam. > >Terjemahan2 Quran dan hadis jg udah banyak nipu krn terjemahannya ga akurat >dgn sengaja. > >Orang Islam itu emang tukang tipu sesuai dgn aulohnya yg ngaku sbg tukang tipu >terbaik. > > > >From: safin _blanc <pandan.wangi...@gmail.com> >>To: proletar@yahoogroups.com >>Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:55 PM >>Subject: Re: [proletar] The Disgraceful and Distressing Things Ibn Hisham >>Omitted from Ibn Ishaq’s Biography of Muhammad >> >>.. ada puluhan, bahkan bisa jadi ratusan biography muhammad.. >>.. bisa didapatkan dari amazon.com, bisa juga download langsung .. >>.. di gramedia juga macem2.. >>.. ada pula yg menyertakan fotonya.. >>.. >>.. >>.. rata2 hampir kgak keliatan ngibulnya.. >>.. orang yg novice bisa saja telen bulet informasi menyesatkan ini.. >>.. memang serius propaganda orang2 ini mendiskreditkan muhammad dan islam.. >>.. >>.. harap maklum dan waspada.. >>.. >> >> >> >>On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:59 AM, item abu <item...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> ** >>> >>> >>> Hehehe... ternyata nabi Islam itu mampus dlm keadaan kontolnya ngaceng. >>> Saking hornynya kali si nabi gila sex ini. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.islam-watch.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=955:the-disgraceful-and-distressing-things-ibn-hisham-omitted-from-ibn-ishaqs-biography-of-muhammad&catid=139:louis-palme&Itemid=58 >>> The Disgraceful and Distressing Things Ibn Hisham Omitted from Ibn Ishaq’s >>> Biography of Muhammad >>> Sunday, 11 March 2012 01:03 Louis Palme >>> >>> Amongst them was his "permanent post-mortem erection"? >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> Muhammad ibn Abdullah, who died in 632 AD, was the founder of Islam. The >>> most authoritative biography of Muhammad is titled "The Life of Muhammad >>> (Sirat Rasul Allah)" originally written by Muhammad ibn Ishaq around 760 >>> AD. No copy of that book remains, but around 800 AD, Ibn Hisham, a student >>> of Ibn Ishaq reconstructed the biography from fragments and notes that he >>> had collected. >>> In his own notes, Ibn Hisham made a rather troubling confession -- that he >>> had omitted from the biography "things which it is disgraceful to discuss; >>> matters which would distress certain people." (pg. 691) To calibrate just >>> how disgraceful or distressing those things must have been, here is a >>> sampling of the accounts that Ibn Hisham deemed worthy of including in the >>> biography: >>> >>> Child Rape: “He married Aisha in Mecca when she was a child of seven and >>> lived with her in Medina when she was nine or ten.” (Muhammad was 52 at the >>> time.) (pg. 792) >>> Mass Murder of 600-900 Jews: “Then the apostle went out to the market of >>> Medina and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for [the Banu Qurayza Jews] >>> and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were bought out to him >>> in batches. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as >>> high as 800 or 900. This went on until the apostle made an end of them.” >>> (pg. 464) >>> >>> Using Camels to Rip a Woman in Two: Muhammad sent Zayd b. Haritha to >>> avenge the loss of some Muslims’ lives during a previous raid on >>> Wadi’l-Qura. After killing several villagers, they took Umm Qirfa, the >>> wife of Malik, prisoner. They killed her “by putting a rope to her two legs >>> and to two camels and driving them until they rent her in two.” (pg. 665) >>> >>> Approval of intercession by gods other than Allah: Anxious to attract >>> people to Islam, Muhammad was reciting a verse from Allah, “Have you >>> thought of al-Lat and al-Uzza and Manat the third, the other (all gods of >>> the Quayrish tribe in Mecca).” Then, Satan put on Muhammad’s tongue, “these >>> are the exalted Gharaniq (high flying cranes) whose intercession is >>> approved.” (pg. 166) This verse was later revised after complaints by >>> Muslims that it implied polytheism, and it can be seen in its present form >>> in Surah 53:20. >>> >>> Muhammad’s unusual death and burial >>> >>> Given the foregoing sampling of the things Ibn Hisham did include in the >>> biography, the offensive accounts he deleted must have been truly >>> disgusting. While we must look elsewhere for what Ibn Hisham found so >>> disgraceful and troubling in the original biography of Muhammad, we can >>> certainly find evidence even there that something was quite unusual about >>> Muhammad’s death and burial. Sharia Law stipulates that when a Muslim dies, >>> he should be undressed and washed by male relatives or his wives, wrapped >>> in a shroud, and buried immediately after the funeral prayer. (Reliance of >>> the Traveler, Section g.). However, none of this happened in the case of >>> Muhammad. >>> >>> According to Ibn Hisham’s account, Muhammad died at noon on a Monday. >>> Since he had not named a successor, rather than tend to Muhammad’s burial, >>> his followers locked the door of the house and had a meeting nearby to >>> decide who would be the next caliph. Once Abu Bakr was named the caliph, >>> they returned to their deceased Prophet on Tuesday. Ali ibn Abi Talib >>> (Muhammad’s son-in-law and a future caliph) and some others took charge of >>> washing him. Ibn Hisham observed, “The apostle’s body did not present the >>> appearance of an ordinary corpse.” (pg. 688) Curiously, he did not >>> elaborate. >>> >>> Hadith collector Abu Dawud recorded this account of what happened next: >>> "We did not know whether we should take off the clothes of the Apostle as >>> we took off the clothes of our dead, or wash him while his clothes were on >>> him. Then a speaker spoke from a side of the house, and they did not know >>> who he was: Wash the Prophet while his clothes are on him. So they stood >>> round the Prophet and washed him while he had his shirt on him. They poured >>> water on his shirt, and rubbed him with his shirt and not with their hands. >>> Aisha used to say: If I had known beforehand about my affair what I found >>> out later, none would have washed him except his wives." (Book 20, Number >>> 3135) >>> >>> What was it that Muhammad’s favorite wife, nineteen-year-old Aisha, found >>> out later? This is a bit delicate, so we will just quote Ali’s exclamation: >>> "O Prophet, thy penis is erect unto the sky!"* This detail was never >>> mentioned in Ibn Hisham’s rendering of Muhammad’s biography. >>> >>> Yes, when Muhammad died he suffered from a permanent post-mortem erection, >>> sometimes called “angel lust.” The medical term for the condition is >>> priapism, and it sometimes occurs when people die suddenly by hanging or >>> due to stroke, poisoning, or brain embolisms. This is the same condition >>> that can cause erections “lasting four hours or more” after taking popular >>> prescription medications to treat erectile dysfunction, such as Viagra and >>> Cialis. >>> >>> So after washing Muhammad through his shirt they plied on three layers of >>> burial garments and put him back on his bed. Then his companions disputed >>> over where to bury the Prophet of Islam. It was finally agreed to bury him >>> directly below his bed. So Wednesday night they started to dig his >>> grave. His wife Aisha didn’t even know about the burial until she heard >>> the sound of pickaxes. Ibn Hisham also reported, “No man acted as imam in >>> the prayers over the apostle." (pg. 688) >>> >>> Why the secrecy in burying Muhammad inside a house in the middle of the >>> night? Not only was his appearance disgraceful and distressing, but his >>> companions feared disputes would break out over this successor. In fact, >>> the rivalry between Sunni and Shiite factions of Islam began at that >>> moment. Four of the first five caliphs, the “rightly guided” successors to >>> Muhammad, were murdered. Furthermore, his companions feared Muslims would >>> leave Islam when they learned about Muhammad’s death. Ibn Hisham commented, >>> “I have heard that Aisha used to say, ‘When the apostle died the Arabs >>> apostatized and Christianity and Judaism raised their heads and >>> disaffection appeared.’“ (pg. 689) Muhammad’s death prompted the Ridda Wars >>> (or Wars of Apostasy) in which thousands of Muslims died trying to escape >>> from Islam. To this day, Muslims are still trying to leave Islam –an act >>> which is a capital crime in Islam and in no other religion. >>> >>> *This quote can be found in Edward Gibbon’s, "The Decline and Fall of the >>> Roman Empire" (1776), Volume 9, page 89, footnote 175. >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >>------------------------------------ >> >>Post message: prole...@egroups.com >>Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com >>Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com >>List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com >>Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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