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On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 6:11 PM, item abu <item...@yahoo.com> wrote: > ** > > > Krn lu goblok, maka lu ga bisa liat kebenaran omongan gua. > > > From: Musik hari Ini <musikhari...@yahoo.com> > >To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" <proletar@yahoogroups.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:58 PM > > >Subject: Re: [proletar] The Disgraceful and Distressing Things Ibn Hisham > Omitted from Ibn Ishaqs Biography of Muhammad > > > > > > > >Tem tidak bermutu postingan elu.........lama2 malah jadi memuak kan > >buang2 waktu baca postingan elu.....perlu diblock kayaknya > >susah ururusan dengan manusia yang tidak punya rasa malu!....menjijik kan > > > >________________________________ > >From: item abu <item...@yahoo.com> > >To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" <proletar@yahoogroups.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:48 AM > >Subject: Re: [proletar] The Disgraceful and Distressing Things Ibn Hisham > Omitted from Ibn Ishaqs Biography of Muhammad > > > > > > > >Hehehe... yg bikin biografi si keparat itu rata2 adalah orang Islam, dan > mereka emang ngasih info yg menyesatkan. > > > >Si Ibn Hisham aja ngaku dia udah ngehilangkan info ttg kebejadan atau > kekonyolan si keparat yg ada di sirat Ibn Ishaq. Berarti si Ibn Hisham itu > udah nyesatkan orang Islam. > > > >Terjemahan2 Quran dan hadis jg udah banyak nipu krn terjemahannya ga > akurat dgn sengaja. > > > >Orang Islam itu emang tukang tipu sesuai dgn aulohnya yg ngaku sbg tukang > tipu terbaik. > > > > > > > >From: safin _blanc <pandan.wangi...@gmail.com> > >>To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > >>Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:55 PM > >>Subject: Re: [proletar] The Disgraceful and Distressing Things Ibn > Hisham Omitted from Ibn Ishaqs Biography of Muhammad > >> > >>.. ada puluhan, bahkan bisa jadi ratusan biography muhammad.. > >>.. bisa didapatkan dari amazon.com, bisa juga download langsung .. > >>.. di gramedia juga macem2.. > >>.. ada pula yg menyertakan fotonya.. > >>.. > >>.. > >>.. rata2 hampir kgak keliatan ngibulnya.. > >>.. orang yg novice bisa saja telen bulet informasi menyesatkan ini.. > >>.. memang serius propaganda orang2 ini mendiskreditkan muhammad dan > islam.. > >>.. > >>.. harap maklum dan waspada.. > >>.. > >> > >> > >> > >>On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:59 AM, item abu <item...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> > >>> ** > >>> > >>> > >>> Hehehe... ternyata nabi Islam itu mampus dlm keadaan kontolnya ngaceng. > >>> Saking hornynya kali si nabi gila sex ini. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > http://www.islam-watch.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=955:the-disgraceful-and-distressing-things-ibn-hisham-omitted-from-ibn-ishaqs-biography-of-muhammad&catid=139:louis-palme&Itemid=58 > >>> The Disgraceful and Distressing Things Ibn Hisham Omitted from Ibn > Ishaqs > >>> Biography of Muhammad > >>> Sunday, 11 March 2012 01:03 Louis Palme > >>> > >>> Amongst them was his "permanent post-mortem erection"? > >>> ________________________________ > >>> > >>> Muhammad ibn Abdullah, who died in 632 AD, was the founder of Islam. > The > >>> most authoritative biography of Muhammad is titled "The Life of > Muhammad > >>> (Sirat Rasul Allah)" originally written by Muhammad ibn Ishaq around > 760 > >>> AD. No copy of that book remains, but around 800 AD, Ibn Hisham, a > student > >>> of Ibn Ishaq reconstructed the biography from fragments and notes that > he > >>> had collected. > >>> In his own notes, Ibn Hisham made a rather troubling confession -- > that he > >>> had omitted from the biography "things which it is disgraceful to > discuss; > >>> matters which would distress certain people." (pg. 691) To calibrate > just > >>> how disgraceful or distressing those things must have been, here is a > >>> sampling of the accounts that Ibn Hisham deemed worthy of including in > the > >>> biography: > >>> > >>> Child Rape: He married Aisha in Mecca when she was a child of seven > and > >>> lived with her in Medina when she was nine or ten. (Muhammad was 52 > at the > >>> time.) (pg. 792) > >>> Mass Murder of 600-900 Jews: Then the apostle went out to the market > of > >>> Medina and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for [the Banu Qurayza > Jews] > >>> and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were bought out > to him > >>> in batches. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as > >>> high as 800 or 900. This went on until the apostle made an end of > them. > >>> (pg. 464) > >>> > >>> Using Camels to Rip a Woman in Two: Muhammad sent Zayd b. Haritha to > >>> avenge the loss of some Muslims lives during a previous raid on > >>> Wadil-Qura. After killing several villagers, they took Umm Qirfa, the > >>> wife of Malik, prisoner. They killed her by putting a rope to her two > legs > >>> and to two camels and driving them until they rent her in two. (pg. > 665) > >>> > >>> Approval of intercession by gods other than Allah: Anxious to attract > >>> people to Islam, Muhammad was reciting a verse from Allah, Have you > >>> thought of al-Lat and al-Uzza and Manat the third, the other (all gods > of > >>> the Quayrish tribe in Mecca). Then, Satan put on Muhammads tongue, > these > >>> are the exalted Gharaniq (high flying cranes) whose intercession is > >>> approved. (pg. 166) This verse was later revised after complaints by > >>> Muslims that it implied polytheism, and it can be seen in its present > form > >>> in Surah 53:20. > >>> > >>> Muhammads unusual death and burial > >>> > >>> Given the foregoing sampling of the things Ibn Hisham did include in > the > >>> biography, the offensive accounts he deleted must have been truly > >>> disgusting. While we must look elsewhere for what Ibn Hisham found so > >>> disgraceful and troubling in the original biography of Muhammad, we can > >>> certainly find evidence even there that something was quite unusual > about > >>> Muhammads death and burial. Sharia Law stipulates that when a Muslim > dies, > >>> he should be undressed and washed by male relatives or his wives, > wrapped > >>> in a shroud, and buried immediately after the funeral prayer. > (Reliance of > >>> the Traveler, Section g.). However, none of this happened in the case > of > >>> Muhammad. > >>> > >>> According to Ibn Hishams account, Muhammad died at noon on a Monday. > >>> Since he had not named a successor, rather than tend to Muhammads > burial, > >>> his followers locked the door of the house and had a meeting nearby to > >>> decide who would be the next caliph. Once Abu Bakr was named the > caliph, > >>> they returned to their deceased Prophet on Tuesday. Ali ibn Abi Talib > >>> (Muhammads son-in-law and a future caliph) and some others took > charge of > >>> washing him. Ibn Hisham observed, The apostles body did not present > the > >>> appearance of an ordinary corpse. (pg. 688) Curiously, he did not > >>> elaborate. > >>> > >>> Hadith collector Abu Dawud recorded this account of what happened next: > >>> "We did not know whether we should take off the clothes of the Apostle > as > >>> we took off the clothes of our dead, or wash him while his clothes > were on > >>> him. Then a speaker spoke from a side of the house, and they did not > know > >>> who he was: Wash the Prophet while his clothes are on him. So they > stood > >>> round the Prophet and washed him while he had his shirt on him. They > poured > >>> water on his shirt, and rubbed him with his shirt and not with their > hands. > >>> Aisha used to say: If I had known beforehand about my affair what I > found > >>> out later, none would have washed him except his wives." (Book 20, > Number > >>> 3135) > >>> > >>> What was it that Muhammads favorite wife, nineteen-year-old Aisha, > found > >>> out later? This is a bit delicate, so we will just quote Alis > exclamation: > >>> "O Prophet, thy penis is erect unto the sky!"* This detail was never > >>> mentioned in Ibn Hishams rendering of Muhammads biography. > >>> > >>> Yes, when Muhammad died he suffered from a permanent post-mortem > erection, > >>> sometimes called angel lust. The medical term for the condition is > >>> priapism, and it sometimes occurs when people die suddenly by hanging > or > >>> due to stroke, poisoning, or brain embolisms. This is the same > condition > >>> that can cause erections lasting four hours or more after taking > popular > >>> prescription medications to treat erectile dysfunction, such as Viagra > and > >>> Cialis. > >>> > >>> So after washing Muhammad through his shirt they plied on three layers > of > >>> burial garments and put him back on his bed. Then his companions > disputed > >>> over where to bury the Prophet of Islam. It was finally agreed to bury > him > >>> directly below his bed. So Wednesday night they started to dig his > >>> grave. His wife Aisha didnt even know about the burial until she > heard > >>> the sound of pickaxes. Ibn Hisham also reported, No man acted as imam > in > >>> the prayers over the apostle." (pg. 688) > >>> > >>> Why the secrecy in burying Muhammad inside a house in the middle of the > >>> night? Not only was his appearance disgraceful and distressing, but his > >>> companions feared disputes would break out over this successor. In > fact, > >>> the rivalry between Sunni and Shiite factions of Islam began at that > >>> moment. Four of the first five caliphs, the rightly guided > successors to > >>> Muhammad, were murdered. Furthermore, his companions feared Muslims > would > >>> leave Islam when they learned about Muhammads death. Ibn Hisham > commented, > >>> I have heard that Aisha used to say, When the apostle died the Arabs > >>> apostatized and Christianity and Judaism raised their heads and > >>> disaffection appeared. (pg. 689) Muhammads death prompted the Ridda > Wars > >>> (or Wars of Apostasy) in which thousands of Muslims died trying to > escape > >>> from Islam. To this day, Muslims are still trying to leave Islam an > act > >>> which is a capital crime in Islam and in no other religion. > >>> > >>> *This quote can be found in Edward Gibbons, "The Decline and Fall of > the > >>> Roman Empire" (1776), Volume 9, page 89, footnote 175. > >>> > >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> > >> > >>------------------------------------ > >> > >>Post message: prole...@egroups.com > >>Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com > >>Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com > >>List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com > >>Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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