Ingat berbagai golongan Islam mencoba menggagalkan Megawati sbg calon Prez. Alasan mereka 'bangsa yg dipimpin perempuan adalah bangsa yg tidak diberkati Auloh!'
Gabriella ________________________________ From: johny_indon <johny_in...@yahoo.com> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, 12 January 2013 9:04 PM Subject: Omongan gabriella kayak kentut Re: [proletar] Re: ogah tiru belanda? tirulah swedia ngaco ah. benazir dan megawati jadi pm dan presiden ngga otomatis, tapi lewat proses pemilu, walaupun untuk kasus mega dia jadi wapres dulu. beda sama ratu atau raja yg otomatis jadi ratu/raja karena keturunan atau perkawinan. ratu elizabeth jadi ratu ngga pake pemilu, begitu juga raja fahd. kalau benazir korup dan megawati bloon gua sih setuju. tapi contoh itu lebih dari cukup untuk mematahkan klaim si geboy bahwa cewek si negara muslim ngga bisa ngapa2in. dikasih kyrgizstan makin patah, tambah kosovo jadi remuk deh. nah sebagai warga negara amrik, apa analisa lu ttg ngga pernah ada cewek yg jadi presiden di amrik beh? padahal sarah palin itu kurang gimana bohai coba. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Habe Proletar wrote: > > Benazir Bhutto dan megawati itu walaupun dipilih melalui pemilu, menjadi > kepala negara juga lantaran keturunan > tidak seperti margaret thatcher ,  angela merkel atau golda meir, perempuan > yang lahir dari orang awam > ngga heran thatcher, merkel dan meir itu perempuan brilyan > sedang bhutto dan megawati, yang satu korup yang satunya lagi goblok > > > ________________________________ > From: johny_indon > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 1:35 AM > Subject: Omongan gabriella kayak kentut Re: [proletar] Re: ogah tiru belanda? > tirulah swedia > > >  > > tapi kayaknya jadi ratu bukan karena dipilih lewat pemilu ya. > kriteria pemimpin cewek yg diharapkan geboy adalah pemimpin yg dipilih > rakyat, > bukan karens keturunan atau pernikahan. > jadi ratu ngga masuk itungan deh. > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Habe Proletar wrote: > > > > ratunya, contohnya queen isabella > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: johny_indon > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:48 PM > > Subject: Omongan gabriella kayak kentut Re: [proletar] Re: ogah tiru > > belanda? tirulah swedia > > > > > >  > > yg berkuasa rajanya apa ratunya? > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Habe Proletar wrote: > > > > > > spanyol, italy dan perancis itu pernah punya ratu > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: johny_indon > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:27 PM > > > Subject: Omongan gabriella kayak kentut Re: [proletar] Re: ogah tiru > > > belanda? tirulah swedia > > > > > > > > >  > > > hehe sekarang pindwh gawang, jadi mau gede2an gundu. > > > padahal awalnya lu yakin banget bahwa cewek di negara mayoritas muslim > > > ngga bisa ngapa2in. > > > kalau lu beneran pernah sekolah, mestinya lu akui dulu bahwa teori lu itu > > > ngawur, baru ngajak gede2an gundu. > > > > > > paling tidak di pakistan, indonesia, kyrgizstan, kosovo, yg adalah > > > negara2 dgn mayoritas muslim, cewek pernah jadi pemimpin negara. > > > sekarang coba lu sebutkan ada berapa cewek yg pernah jadi pemimpin negara > > > di usa, italy, > > > spanyol, perancis, dan vatican. > > > > > > gua udah jawab pertanyaan elu dgn jujur. > > > sekarang lu jawab pertanyaan gua dgn jujur juga, kalau bisa. > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Gabriella Rantau wrote: > > > > > > > > Just answer this simple question if you can. How many Islamic paradise, > > > > I mean nations, have actually appoined a women as their leader? Now > > > > compare how many non-Muslim nationas over the centuries have had women > > > > holding the highest office in the land? > > > > > > > > Now, be honest if you could. > > > > > > > > Gabriella > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: johny_indon > > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Friday, 11 January 2013 9:41 PM > > > > Subject: Omongan gabriella kayak kentut Re: [proletar] Re: ogah tiru > > > > belanda? tirulah swedia > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > logika kamu ngga jalan samasekali. > > > > kalau rakyat muslim pakistan mengharamkan perempuan jadi pemimpin, > > > > sejak > > > > awal benazir ngga akan pernah terpilih jadi pemimpin. > > > > dan kalo benazir dibunuh hanya karena dia wanita, maka anwar sadat > > > > dibunuh karena dia pria? > > > > rasanya ini pernah dibahas deh, dan kamu emang tipikal ignorant ndableg > > > > kepala batu, > > > > argumen yg dibawa itu lagi itu lagi. udah jelas ngawur, terus2an didaur > > > > ulang. > > > > > > > > amerika puluhan kali melakukan pilpres tapi ngga pernah sekalipun ada > > > > cewek yg sukses > > > > jadi presiden. biarpun calon presiden pernah ada yg cewek (sarah palin) > > > > tapi rakyat > > > > amerika ngga percaya negaranya dipimpin cewek. > > > > kalo ngikut logika kamu, maka rakyat amerika yg notabene mayoritas > > > > kresten tidak > > > > mau dipimpin oleh cewek. jadi umat mana yg lebih menghargai cewek coba? > > > > kesimpulan: kalo soal gender equality, pakistan 100x masih diatas > > > > amerika. > > > > hadapi kenyataan ini dengan lapang dada, dan jangan terus2an > > > > menyebarkan kebohongan. > > > > kasian gereja yg membayar kamu buat bikin propaganda anti muslim di > > > > sini, mereka pasti akan sangat malu. > > > > > > > > belom pernah nonton bokep samasekali? > > > > well mungkin gereja kamu melarangnya ya. kasian juga kalo kamu cuman > > > > boleh > > > > nonton mickey mouse se umur2. > > > > soal lebih seru atau apa gua sih ngga tau, yg jelas banyak bener pemain > > > > bokep > > > > yg berkalung atau bertato salib. itu bukan sekedar simbol lho. > > > > tapi mereka memang sangat religius, kalo lagi keenakan suka manggil2 > > > > tuhannya > > > > (oh god yes... jesus christ... yes right there...all the way baby...oh > > > > god i'm coming..., kurang > > > > lebih begitulah mereka mengucapkan rasa syukur atas nikmat yg diberikan > > > > tuhannya, geb) > > > > > > > > nanti kalo jadi ketemu habe jangan lupa minta foto racquel darrian. > > > > tapi ini cewek kayaknya sekarang udah peot, mungkin tato salibnya udah > > > > berubah jadi sumpit. > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Gabriella Rantau wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Salut kpd Benazir Butho yg menjadi presiden Republik Islam Pakistan. > > > > > Sayangnya ada yg tidak setuju dipimpin perempuan (sesuai dengan > > > > > hadist) maka mereka memutuskan untuk menembak mati si Benazir. > > > > > > > > > > Mengenai perempuan menjadi pemimpin negara - hal semacam ini tidak > > > > > asing lagi di negara demokratis, karena perempuan dianggap sama > > > > > derajatnya dengan laki2. Siapa saja yg mampu bisa dipilih menjadi > > > > > president, perdana menteri, atau pemimpin apapun. > > > > > > > > > > Aku belon pernah nonton sex film, tapi aku curiga mereka sengaja > > > > > memilih pelaku yg memakai atribut Kristen supaya (mnrt si producer) > > > > > lebih seru! > > > > > > > > > > Gabriella > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: johny_indon > > > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Sent: Friday, 11 January 2013 11:28 AM > > > > > Subject: Omongan gabriella kayak kentut Re: [proletar] Re: ogah tiru > > > > > belanda? tirulah swedia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pikirkan juga bahwa faktanya di negara berbasis islam justru > > > > > perempuan pernah jadi > > > > > pemimpin negara. > > > > > pikirkan lagi bahwa di negara biang demokrasi yg udah puluhan kali > > > > > ganti presiden, belum pernah > > > > > sekalipun punya presiden cewek. > > > > > pikirkan juga bahwa film2 porno yg mengeksploitasi cewek habis2an itu > > > > > pemainnya lebih > > > > > banyak yg berkalung atau bertato salib. > > > > > > > > > > dan hanya pemimpin di negara katolik yg berani menyelenggarakan pesta > > > > > 'bunga bunga party'. > > > > > > > > > > buka mata buka telinga, perbanyak liat fakta, kurangi kibulan dan > > > > > fitnah. > > > > > jadilah salesgirl yg baik, yg menunjukkan keunggulan dagangannya, > > > > > bukan dgn > > > > > terus2an menjelekan barang milik orang lain. > > > > > > > > > > mengutip kata2 rarach: kalau lampu sendiri pengen keliatan lebih > > > > > terang itu caranya bukan > > > > > dengan mematikan lampu orang lain, tapi dengan menambah daya sendiri. > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com@yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2013 10:20 PM > > > > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: ogah tiru belanda? tirulah swedia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ> > > > > > 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > satu dari empat laki2 afrika selatan mengaku pernah melakukan > > > > > > perkosaan. > > > > > > delapan dari sepuluh penduduk afrika selatan beragama kresten. > > > > > > > > > > > > hopefully item abu and gaby can do the math. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ajeg" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ingat motto hiperbola si ustad selangkangan itu? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nah, yang ini buat nambah pengetahuan ustad selangkangan > > > > > > > al mukaromah uplik hadjar privacy ungu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 September 2012 Last updated at 23:37 GMT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sweden's rape rate under the spotlight > > > > > > > By Ruth Alexander BBC News > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Julian Assange extradition case has put Sweden's relatively > > > > > > > high > > > > > > > incidence of rape under the spotlight. But can such statistics be > > > > > > > reliably compared from one country to another? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which two countries are the kidnapping capitals of the world? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Australia and Canada. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Official figures from the United Nations show that there were 17 > > > > > > > kidnaps per 100,000 people in Australia in 2010 and 12.7 in > > > > > > > Canada. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That compares with only 0.6 in Colombia and 1.1 in Mexico. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So why haven't we heard any of these horror stories? Are people > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > grabbed off the street in Sydney and Toronto, while the world > > > > > > > turns a > > > > > > > blind eye? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, the high numbers of kidnapping cases in these two countries > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > explained by the fact that parental disputes over child custody > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > included in the figures. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If one parent takes a child for the weekend, and the other parent > > > > > > > objects and calls the police, the incident will be recorded as a > > > > > > > kidnapping, according to Enrico Bisogno, a statistician with the > > > > > > > United Nations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Comparing crime rates across countries is fraught with > > > > > > > difficulties - > > > > > > > this is well known among criminologists and statisticians, less > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > among journalists and commentators. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sweden has the highest rape rate in Europe, author Naomi Wolf > > > > > > > said on > > > > > > > the BBC's Newsnight programme recently. She was commenting on the > > > > > > > case of Julian Assange, the Wikileaks founder who is fighting > > > > > > > extradition from the UK to Sweden over rape and sexual assault > > > > > > > allegations that he denies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it true? Yes. The Swedish police recorded the highest number > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > offences - about 63 per 100,000 inhabitants - of any force in > > > > > > > Europe, > > > > > > > in 2010. The second-highest in the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This was three times higher than the number of cases in the same > > > > > > > year > > > > > > > in Sweden's next-door neighbour, Norway, and twice the rate in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > United States and the UK. It was more than 30 times the number in > > > > > > > India, which recorded about two offences per 100,000 people. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the face of it, it would seem Sweden is a much more dangerous > > > > > > > place than these other countries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But that is a misconception, according to Klara Selin, a > > > > > > > sociologist > > > > > > > at the National Council for Crime Prevention in Stockholm. She > > > > > > > says > > > > > > > you cannot compare countries' records, because police procedures > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > legal definitions vary widely. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In Sweden there has been this ambition explicitly to record > > > > > > > every case of sexual violence separately, to make it visible in > > > > > > > the statistics," she says. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "So, for instance, when a woman comes to the police and she says > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > husband or my fiance raped me almost every day during the last > > > > > > > year, > > > > > > > the police have to record each of these events, which might be > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > than 300 events. In many other countries it would just be one > > > > > > > record > > > > > > > - one victim, one type of crime, one record." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The thing is, the number of reported rapes has been going up in > > > > > > > Sweden - it's almost trebled in just the last seven years. In > > > > > > > 2003, > > > > > > > about 2,200 offences were reported by the police, compared to > > > > > > > nearly > > > > > > > 6,000 in 2010. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So something's going on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Klara Selin says the statistics don't represent a major crime > > > > > > > epidemic, rather a shift in attitudes. The public debate about > > > > > > > this sort of crime in Sweden over the past two decades has had > > > > > > > the effect of raising awareness, she says, and encouraging women > > > > > > > to go to the police if they have been attacked. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The police have also made efforts to improve their handling of > > > > > > > cases, > > > > > > > she suggests, though she doesn't deny that there has been some > > > > > > > real > > > > > > > increase in the number of attacks taking place - a concern also > > > > > > > outlined in an Amnesty International report in 2010. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There might also be some increase in actual crime because of > > > > > > > societal changes. Due to the internet, for example, it's much > > > > > > > easier > > > > > > > these days to meet somebody, just the same evening if you want > > > > > > > to. > > > > > > > Also, alcohol consumption has increased quite a lot during this > > > > > > > period. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "But the major explanation is partly that people go to the police > > > > > > > more often, but also the fact that in 2005 there has been reform > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > the sex crime legislation, which made the legal definition of > > > > > > > rape > > > > > > > much wider than before." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The change in law meant that cases where the victim was asleep or > > > > > > > intoxicated are now included in the figures. Previously they'd > > > > > > > been > > > > > > > recorded as another category of crime. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So an on-the-face-of-it international comparison of rape > > > > > > > statistics > > > > > > > can be misleading. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Botswana has the highest rate of recorded attacks - 92.9 per > > > > > > > 100,000 > > > > > > > people - but a total of 63 countries don't submit any statistics, > > > > > > > including South Africa, where a survey three years ago showed > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > one in four men questioned admitted to rape. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In 2010, an Amnesty International report highlighted that sexual > > > > > > > violence happens in every single country, and yet the official > > > > > > > figures show that some countries like Hong Kong and Mongolia have > > > > > > > zero cases reported. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Evidently, women in some countries are much less likely to report > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > attack than in others and are much less likely to have their > > > > > > > complaint recorded. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > UN statistician Enrico Bisogno says surveys suggest that as few > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > one in 10 cases are ever reported to the police, in many > > > > > > > countries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "We often present the situation as kind of an iceberg where > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > what we can see is just the tip while the rest is below the sea > > > > > > > level. It remains below the radar of the law enforcement > > > > > > > agencies," > > > > > > > he says. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Naomi Wolf has also written that Sweden has the lowest conviction > > > > > > > rate in Europe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She was relying on statistics from a nine-year-old report, which > > > > > > > calculated percentage conviction rates based on the number of > > > > > > > offences recorded by the police and the number of convictions. > > > > > > > But > > > > > > > this is a problematic way of analysing statistics, as several > > > > > > > offences could be committed by one person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The United Nations holds official statistics on the number of > > > > > > > convictions for rape per 100,000 people and actually, by that > > > > > > > measure, Sweden has the highest number of convictions per capita > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > Europe, bar Russia. In 2010, 3.7 convictions were achieved per > > > > > > > 100,000 population. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though it's still the case, as Wolf pointed out to the BBC, that > > > > > > > women in Sweden report a high number of offences - and only a > > > > > > > small > > > > > > > number of rapists are punished. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So there's a lot that official statistics don't tell us. They > > > > > > > certainly don't reveal the real number of rapes that happen in > > > > > > > Sweden, or any other country. And they don't give a clear view of > > > > > > > which countries have worse crime rates than others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rape is particularly complex, but you'd think it would be > > > > > > > straightforward to analyse murder rates across different > > > > > > > countries - > > > > > > > just count up the dead bodies, and compare and contrast. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If only, says Enrico Bisogno. "For example, if I punch somebody > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > the person eventually dies, some countries can consider that as > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > intentional murder, others as a manslaughter. 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