logika kamu ngga jalan samasekali.
kalau rakyat muslim pakistan mengharamkan perempuan jadi pemimpin, sejak 
awal benazir ngga akan pernah terpilih jadi pemimpin.
dan kalo benazir dibunuh hanya karena dia wanita, maka anwar sadat dibunuh 
karena dia pria?
rasanya ini pernah dibahas deh, dan kamu emang tipikal ignorant ndableg kepala 
batu, 
argumen yg dibawa itu lagi itu lagi. udah jelas ngawur, terus2an didaur ulang.

amerika puluhan kali melakukan pilpres tapi ngga pernah sekalipun ada cewek yg 
sukses 
jadi presiden. biarpun calon presiden pernah ada yg cewek (sarah palin) tapi 
rakyat 
amerika ngga percaya negaranya dipimpin cewek.
kalo ngikut logika kamu, maka rakyat amerika yg notabene mayoritas kresten 
tidak 
mau dipimpin oleh cewek. jadi umat mana yg lebih menghargai cewek coba?
kesimpulan: kalo soal gender equality, pakistan 100x masih diatas amerika.
hadapi kenyataan ini dengan lapang dada, dan jangan terus2an menyebarkan 
kebohongan.
kasian gereja yg membayar kamu buat bikin propaganda anti muslim di sini, 
mereka pasti akan sangat malu.

belom pernah nonton bokep samasekali?
well mungkin gereja kamu melarangnya ya. kasian juga kalo kamu cuman boleh 
nonton mickey mouse se umur2.
soal lebih seru atau apa gua sih ngga tau, yg jelas banyak bener pemain bokep 
yg berkalung atau bertato salib. itu bukan sekedar simbol lho.
tapi mereka memang sangat religius, kalo lagi keenakan suka manggil2 tuhannya 
(oh god yes... jesus christ... yes right there...all the way baby...oh god i'm 
coming..., kurang 
lebih begitulah mereka mengucapkan rasa syukur atas nikmat yg diberikan 
tuhannya, geb)

nanti kalo jadi ketemu habe jangan lupa minta foto racquel darrian.
tapi ini cewek kayaknya sekarang udah peot, mungkin tato salibnya udah berubah 
jadi sumpit.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Gabriella Rantau  wrote:
>
> Salut kpd Benazir Butho yg menjadi presiden Republik Islam Pakistan. 
> Sayangnya ada yg tidak setuju dipimpin perempuan (sesuai dengan hadist) maka 
> mereka memutuskan untuk menembak mati si Benazir.
> 
> Mengenai perempuan menjadi pemimpin negara - hal semacam ini tidak asing lagi 
> di negara demokratis, karena perempuan dianggap sama derajatnya dengan laki2. 
> Siapa saja yg mampu bisa dipilih menjadi president, perdana menteri, atau 
> pemimpin apapun.
> 
> Aku belon pernah nonton sex film, tapi aku curiga mereka sengaja memilih 
> pelaku yg memakai atribut Kristen supaya (mnrt si producer) lebih seru!
> 
> Gabriella
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: johny_indon 
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, 11 January 2013 11:28 AM
> Subject: Omongan gabriella kayak kentut Re: [proletar] Re: ogah tiru belanda? 
> tirulah swedia
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 
> pikirkan juga bahwa faktanya di negara berbasis islam justru perempuan pernah 
> jadi 
> pemimpin negara.
> pikirkan lagi bahwa  di negara biang demokrasi yg udah puluhan kali ganti 
> presiden, belum pernah 
> sekalipun punya presiden cewek.
> pikirkan juga bahwa film2 porno yg mengeksploitasi cewek habis2an itu 
> pemainnya lebih 
> banyak yg berkalung atau bertato salib.
> 
> dan hanya pemimpin di negara katolik yg berani menyelenggarakan pesta 'bunga 
> bunga party'.
> 
> buka mata buka telinga, perbanyak liat fakta, kurangi kibulan dan fitnah.
> jadilah salesgirl yg baik, yg menunjukkan keunggulan dagangannya, bukan dgn 
> terus2an menjelekan barang milik orang lain.
> 
> mengutip kata2 rarach: kalau lampu sendiri pengen keliatan lebih terang itu 
> caranya bukan 
> dengan mematikan lampu orang lain, tapi dengan menambah daya sendiri.
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com> 
> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com@yahoogroups.com> 
> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com> 
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2013 10:20 PM 
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: ogah tiru belanda? tirulah swedia 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > satu dari empat laki2 afrika selatan mengaku pernah melakukan perkosaan. 
> > delapan dari sepuluh penduduk afrika selatan beragama kresten. 
> > 
> > hopefully item abu and gaby can do the math. 
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ajeg"  wrote: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ingat motto hiperbola si ustad selangkangan itu? 
> > > 
> > > Nah, yang ini buat nambah pengetahuan ustad selangkangan 
> > > al mukaromah uplik hadjar privacy ungu. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 14 September 2012 Last updated at 23:37 GMT 
> > > 
> > > Sweden's rape rate under the spotlight 
> > > By Ruth Alexander BBC News 
> > > 
> > > The Julian Assange extradition case has put Sweden's relatively high 
> > > incidence of rape under the spotlight. But can such statistics be 
> > > reliably compared from one country to another? 
> > > 
> > > Which two countries are the kidnapping capitals of the world? 
> > > 
> > > Australia and Canada. 
> > > 
> > > Official figures from the United Nations show that there were 17 
> > > kidnaps per 100,000 people in Australia in 2010 and 12.7 in Canada. 
> > > 
> > > That compares with only 0.6 in Colombia and 1.1 in Mexico. 
> > > 
> > > So why haven't we heard any of these horror stories? Are people being 
> > > grabbed off the street in Sydney and Toronto, while the world turns a 
> > > blind eye? 
> > > 
> > > No, the high numbers of kidnapping cases in these two countries are 
> > > explained by the fact that parental disputes over child custody are 
> > > included in the figures. 
> > > 
> > > If one parent takes a child for the weekend, and the other parent 
> > > objects and calls the police, the incident will be recorded as a 
> > > kidnapping, according to Enrico Bisogno, a statistician with the 
> > > United Nations. 
> > > 
> > > Comparing crime rates across countries is fraught with difficulties - 
> > > this is well known among criminologists and statisticians, less so 
> > > among journalists and commentators. 
> > > 
> > > Sweden has the highest rape rate in Europe, author Naomi Wolf said on 
> > > the BBC's Newsnight programme recently. She was commenting on the 
> > > case of Julian Assange, the Wikileaks founder who is fighting 
> > > extradition from the UK to Sweden over rape and sexual assault 
> > > allegations that he denies. 
> > > 
> > > Is it true? Yes. The Swedish police recorded the highest number of 
> > > offences - about 63 per 100,000 inhabitants - of any force in Europe, 
> > > in 2010. The second-highest in the world. 
> > > 
> > > This was three times higher than the number of cases in the same year 
> > > in Sweden's next-door neighbour, Norway, and twice the rate in the 
> > > United States and the UK. It was more than 30 times the number in 
> > > India, which recorded about two offences per 100,000 people. 
> > > 
> > > On the face of it, it would seem Sweden is a much more dangerous 
> > > place than these other countries. 
> > > 
> > > But that is a misconception, according to Klara Selin, a sociologist 
> > > at the National Council for Crime Prevention in Stockholm. She says 
> > > you cannot compare countries' records, because police procedures and 
> > > legal definitions vary widely. 
> > > 
> > > "In Sweden there has been this ambition explicitly to record every case 
> > > of sexual violence separately, to make it visible in the statistics," she 
> > > says. 
> > > 
> > > "So, for instance, when a woman comes to the police and she says my 
> > > husband or my fiance raped me almost every day during the last year, 
> > > the police have to record each of these events, which might be more 
> > > than 300 events. In many other countries it would just be one record 
> > > - one victim, one type of crime, one record." 
> > > 
> > > The thing is, the number of reported rapes has been going up in 
> > > Sweden - it's almost trebled in just the last seven years. In 2003, 
> > > about 2,200 offences were reported by the police, compared to nearly 
> > > 6,000 in 2010. 
> > > 
> > > So something's going on. 
> > > 
> > > But Klara Selin says the statistics don't represent a major crime 
> > > epidemic, rather a shift in attitudes. The public debate about this sort 
> > > of crime in Sweden over the past two decades has had the effect of 
> > > raising awareness, she says, and encouraging women to go to the police if 
> > > they have been attacked. 
> > > 
> > > The police have also made efforts to improve their handling of cases, 
> > > she suggests, though she doesn't deny that there has been some real 
> > > increase in the number of attacks taking place - a concern also 
> > > outlined in an Amnesty International report in 2010. 
> > > 
> > > "There might also be some increase in actual crime because of 
> > > societal changes. Due to the internet, for example, it's much easier 
> > > these days to meet somebody, just the same evening if you want to. 
> > > Also, alcohol consumption has increased quite a lot during this 
> > > period. 
> > > 
> > > "But the major explanation is partly that people go to the police 
> > > more often, but also the fact that in 2005 there has been reform in 
> > > the sex crime legislation, which made the legal definition of rape 
> > > much wider than before." 
> > > 
> > > The change in law meant that cases where the victim was asleep or 
> > > intoxicated are now included in the figures. Previously they'd been 
> > > recorded as another category of crime. 
> > > 
> > > So an on-the-face-of-it international comparison of rape statistics 
> > > can be misleading. 
> > > 
> > > Botswana has the highest rate of recorded attacks - 92.9 per 100,000 
> > > people - but a total of 63 countries don't submit any statistics, 
> > > including South Africa, where a survey three years ago showed that 
> > > one in four men questioned admitted to rape. 
> > > 
> > > In 2010, an Amnesty International report highlighted that sexual 
> > > violence happens in every single country, and yet the official 
> > > figures show that some countries like Hong Kong and Mongolia have 
> > > zero cases reported. 
> > > 
> > > Evidently, women in some countries are much less likely to report an 
> > > attack than in others and are much less likely to have their 
> > > complaint recorded. 
> > > 
> > > UN statistician Enrico Bisogno says surveys suggest that as few as 
> > > one in 10 cases are ever reported to the police, in many countries. 
> > > 
> > > "We often present the situation as kind of an iceberg where really 
> > > what we can see is just the tip while the rest is below the sea 
> > > level. It remains below the radar of the law enforcement agencies," 
> > > he says. 
> > > 
> > > Naomi Wolf has also written that Sweden has the lowest conviction 
> > > rate in Europe. 
> > > 
> > > She was relying on statistics from a nine-year-old report, which 
> > > calculated percentage conviction rates based on the number of 
> > > offences recorded by the police and the number of convictions. But 
> > > this is a problematic way of analysing statistics, as several 
> > > offences could be committed by one person. 
> > > 
> > > The United Nations holds official statistics on the number of 
> > > convictions for rape per 100,000 people and actually, by that 
> > > measure, Sweden has the highest number of convictions per capita in 
> > > Europe, bar Russia. In 2010, 3.7 convictions were achieved per 
> > > 100,000 population. 
> > > 
> > > Though it's still the case, as Wolf pointed out to the BBC, that 
> > > women in Sweden report a high number of offences - and only a small 
> > > number of rapists are punished. 
> > > 
> > > So there's a lot that official statistics don't tell us. They 
> > > certainly don't reveal the real number of rapes that happen in 
> > > Sweden, or any other country. And they don't give a clear view of 
> > > which countries have worse crime rates than others. 
> > > 
> > > Rape is particularly complex, but you'd think it would be 
> > > straightforward to analyse murder rates across different countries - 
> > > just count up the dead bodies, and compare and contrast. 
> > > 
> > > If only, says Enrico Bisogno. "For example, if I punch somebody and 
> > > the person eventually dies, some countries can consider that as an 
> > > intentional murder, others as a manslaughter. Or in some countries, 
> > > dowry killings are coded separately because there is separate 
> > > legislation." 
> > > 
> > > What's more, a comparison of murder rates between developed and less 
> > > developed countries may tell you as much about health as crime 
> > > levels, according to Professor Chris Lewis, a criminologist from 
> > > Portsmouth University in the UK. 
> > > 
> > > The statistics are to some unknown degree complicated by the fact 
> > > that you're more likely to survive an attack in a town where you're 
> > > found quickly and taken to a hospital that's well-equipped. 
> > > 
> > > \ 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> 
> 
>  
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




------------------------------------

Post message: prole...@egroups.com
Subscribe   :  proletar-subscr...@egroups.com
Unsubscribe :  proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com
List owner  :  proletar-ow...@egroups.com
Homepage    :  http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join
    (Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
    proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com 
    proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Kirim email ke