Jadi hadis Muslim itu adalah beol, hehehe...
2013/1/16 Roman Proteus <pt_kas...@yahoo.com> > ** > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rahwana nyawa.ib...@gmail.com> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:34:03 > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [proletar] Calon Hakim Agung: Pemerkosa dan yang Diperkosa > Menikmati > > hwakakakak....orang islam paling kaga demen nih dikritik kaya > gini....diketawain juga kaga demen die..hwkakakakak... siap siap nih lele > islam pada matil....hwakakakakak..... > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:06 AM, itemabu2 itema...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hehehe... orang Islam kayak si ajeg itu boleh2 aja ngoceh pemerkosa hrs > > dihukum, tp begitu nabinya atau orang Islam soleh yg merkosa, mereka ga > > cuma diam aja ngebiarin pemerkosa tsb bebas, tp justru akan kaing2 > nutup2in > > pemerkosaan yg dilakukan oleh nabi atau orang Islam soleh lainnya tsb. > > > > Hadis di bawah ini bilang nabi dan sohibnya merkosa cewek tawanan. Ga > akan > > ada orang Islam yg bilang si nabi dkk itu hrs dihukum, bukan? > > > > Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa'id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): 0 Abu > > Sa'id, did you hear Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) mentioning > > al-'azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah's Messenger > (may > > peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took > captive > > some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering > from > > the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom > for > > them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by > observing > > 'azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to > > avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah's > > Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah's Mes- > senger > > (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not > do > > it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will > be > > born. * > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Musik hari Ini musikhari...@yahoo.com > > >wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > Dungukan,apa korelasi judul tulisan itu > > > dengan copy paste elu?? > > > > > > ketololan seperti ini kok diperaktekin di PROL. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: itemabu2 itema...@gmail.com> > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:22 PM > > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Calon Hakim Agung: Pemerkosa dan yang > Diperkosa > > > Menikmati > > > > > > Sahih Muslim > > > Share on facebook > > > http://www.theonlyquran.com/hadith/Sahih-Muslim/?volume=8&chapter=22#> > > > > Share > > > on twitter > > > http://www.theonlyquran.com/hadith/Sahih-Muslim/?volume=8&chapter=22#> > > > > Share > > > on email > > > http://www.theonlyquran.com/hadith/Sahih-Muslim/?volume=8&chapter=22#> > > > > Share > > > on google > > > > > > http://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php?v=250&winname=addthis&pub=nemothecapt&source=tbx-250&lng=en-US&s=google&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theonlyquran.com%2Fhadith%2FSahih-Muslim%2F%3Fvolume%3D8%26chapter%3D22&title=Hadith%20-%20Sahih%20Muslim%2C%20Volume%208%20-%20AL%20AZL%20%28INCOMPLETE%20SEXUAL%20INTERCOURSE%29%3A%20COITUS%20INTERRUPTUS&ate=AT-nemothecapt/-/-/50f5c80be0b38c34/2&frommenu=1&uid=50f5c80ba8556a57&ct=1&pre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fsa%3Dt%26rct%3Dj%26q%3Dcoitus%2520interuptus%2520hadith%26source%3Dweb%26cd%3D2%26cad%3Drja%26ved%3D0CDoQFjAB%26url%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.theonlyquran.com%252Fhadith%252FSahih-Muslim%252F%253Fvolume%253D8%2526chapter%253D22%26ei%3DAMj1UOyJGtHJrAfm74DwCw%26usg%3DAFQjCNFNrOKk418PxSS8RVrfmloyWlA3dQ%26bvm%3Dbv.41018144%2Cd.bmk&tt=0&captcha_provider=nucaptcha > > > > > > > More > > > Sharing Services > > > http://www.theonlyquran.com/hadith/Sahih-Muslim/?volume=8&chapter=22#> > > > > by Imam Muslim, translation by Abdul Hamid Siddiqui , Volume: The Book > > > of Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah) > > > Chapter: AL AZL (INCOMPLETE SEXUAL INTERCOURSE): COITUS INTERRUPTUS > > > > > > * > > > 3371. * > > > > > > Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa'id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): 0 > Abu > > > Sa'id, did you hear Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) > mentioning > > > al-'azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah's Messenger > (may > > > peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took > > captive > > > some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering > > from > > > the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired > ransom > > for > > > them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by > observing > > > 'azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to > > > avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah's > > > Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah's Mes- > senger > > > (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not > do > > > it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection > will > > be > > > born. * > > > 3372. * > > > > > > A hadith like this has been narrated on the authority of Habban with > the > > > same chain of transmitters (but with this alteration) that he said:" > > Allah > > > has ordained whom he has to createuntil the Day of judgment." * > > > 3373. * > > > > > > Abu Sa'id al-Khudri (Allah be pleased with him) reported: We took > women > > > captives, and we wanted to do 'azl with them. We then asked Allah's > > Messen- > > > ger (may peace be upon him) about it, and he said to us: Verily you do > > it, > > > verily you do it, verily you do it, but the soul which has to be born > > until > > > the Day of judg- ment must be born. * > > > 3374. * > > > > > > Abu Sa'id al-Khudri (Allah be pleased with him) (was asked if he had > > heard > > > it himself), to which he said: Yes. (I heard) Allah's Apostle (may > peace > > be > > > upon him) as saying: There is no harm if you do not practise it, for > it > > > (the birth of the child) is something ordained (by Allah). * > > > 3375. * > > > > > > This hadith is reported on the authority of Abu Sa'id with the same > chain > > > of transmitters but with a slight variation (of words). > > > > > > Hadis di atas menunjukkan bhw nabi dan sohibnya merkosa cewek tanwanan > > dgn > > > masukin kontol mereka ke dlm ceweknya. > > > > > > Silakan lu terusin kaing2 pemerkosa hrs dihukum. > > > > > > 2013/1/15 ajeg ajegil...@yahoo.com> > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sekedar tambahan pengetahuan nih buat elu, uplik, > > > > geboy, dan yang terobsesi atau trauma dengan perkosaan. > > > > > > > > Dalam hukum positif yang berlaku di mana pun definisi > > > > perkosaan itu selalu mengacu kepada senggama; > > > > hubungan kelamin; sexual intercourse. Tentu saja > > > > dengan paksaan / tanpa persetujuan pihak yang dihubungi. > > > > > > > > Pemaksaan tanpa terjadi senggama, paling banter hakim > > > > cuma menimbangnya sebagai 'percobaan perkosaan'. Itu pun > > > > harus dibuktikan bahwa kedua jenis kelamin memang > > > > sempat bertemu, berhadapan tanpa pembatas walau tidak > > > > bersentuhan. Tanpa munculnya kedua alat kelamin, hakim > > > > bakal mencemplungkan kasus seperti ini ke pasal "kekerasan > > > > seksual", bukan perkosaan. > > > > > > > > Pemerkosa itu harus dihukum. Dan sekarang semakin terbukti > > > > bahwa elu tukang perkosa yang menghindari hukuman karena terus > > > > bertahan memakai definisi WHO, dan bukan ketentuan hukum. > > > > > > > > Atau, elu korban perkosaan yang kelewat tolol sehingga > > > > melaporkan kasus lu ke klinik 24 jam, dan bukan ke kantor > > > > polisi terdekat. > > > > > > > > Paham blek? > > > > > > > > --- itemabu2 wrote: > > > > > > > > > Ga beda dgn rezameutia, tiap omongan yg keluar dr mulut lu itu ga > > > > > lbh dr barang busuk. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/1/15 ajeg > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > Nah elu sendiri menikmati setiap omongan lu > > > > > > tentang perkosaan. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ngibul pun lu lakoni demi ngoceh perkosaan. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jelas kunyuk macam elu dan daming itu nggak boleh > > > > > > jadi hakim apa pun. 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