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Bener gak? Logis gak? Bebal banget ni lonte tua Sesimple itu aja gak paham -----Original Message----- From: Gabriella Rantau <gkran...@yahoo.com> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 16:37:02 To: proletar@yahoogroups.com<proletar@yahoogroups.com> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [proletar] Penjajahan islam di Mali MHI, anda tidak mungkin menyangkal bhw bansaMesir (Copt) itu budayanya jauh lebih tinggi dari budaya padang pasir Arabia. Anda juga tidak bisa menyangkal bhw gerombolan Muslim (tanpa provokasi) menyerang Mesir dan memaksa bangsanya menjadi Arab wannabes dan meninggalkan agamanya dan masuk Islam. Hal yg sama terjadi kpd bangsa2lain misalnya, Turkey, Persia, India dst. Anda dan banyak umat Islam yg tidak mengenal Al Qur'an mati2an mengatakan bhw Islam itu untuk seluruh dunia. Allah SWT dg jelas menyatakan bhw Islam dan Nabi Junjungan itu hanya untuk Ummul Qura dan mereka yg bermukim di sekitarnya! Setiap umat, mnrt Allah SWT dikirim sseorang nabi masing2 dari antara umat itu. We're not talking about the dreadful colonization of the Netherlands, brur. We're talking about the predatory, beastly teaching of Islam and it's aggression towards nations for the sake of Allah and Islam! Gabriella ________________________________ From: Musik hari Ini <musikhari...@yahoo.com> To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" <proletar@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [proletar] Penjajahan islam di Mali Hayo, saudara2 sebangsa dan setanah air banggalah dengan budaya dan adat-istiadat Nusantara ============== Goyim tolol yang satu ini sok cinta dengan indonesia jangan berlebihanlah bahasa dan apa yang kamu tulis jauh dari apa itu cinta tanah air sok nginggris campur dengan indonesia...mirip robot kehabisan batrey pakai lagi melihat sejarah dengan kaca mata kuda Oooh jadi mesir itu di Afrika timur berseblahan dengan dengan Arab? siapa yang bawa ajaran paulus homosex ke minahasa? Kecuali kalau seluruh bangsa Indonesia menyadaribhw Islam itu dimaksud hanya untuk Mekkah dan mereka yg bermukim di sekitarnya. Dan yg lebih penting lagi: budaya, budi pekerti, tata kerama Indonesia adalah jauh lebih mulia ======================= Islam untuk mekah saja? Agama semetik itu untuk siapa saja yang mencari tuhan,mari bicara tentang budaya indonesia seperti apa budaya Indonesia yang situ pahami? dijajah belanda diam saja! di jajah inggris diam saja? pertanyaan saya buat sampean Goyim tolol apa kontribusi Agama keresten buat kemerdekaan Indonesia> ________________________________ From: Gabriella Rantau gkran...@yahoo.com> To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" proletar@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2013 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [proletar] Penjajahan islam di Mali Rupanya praktik seperti ini sudah dilakukan oleh islamist sejak zaman Nabi Junjungan. Beberapa waktu lalu di Sudan, the Janjawids, islamic cut-throats memaksakan Islam kepada orang2 Sudan apakah mereka non-Muslim atau Muslim aliran berbeda dengan preman2 Islam ini. Mesir adalah salah satu bangsa dengan budaya sangat tingggi yg takluk menyerah ketika Islam dg ajaran yg menghalalkan pembunuhan, pemerkosaan dan pemaksaan Islam thdp siapa saja yg dianggapnya musuh Islam. By the 10th century bangsa Mesir yg budayanya jauh tinggi dibanding budaya padang pasir akhirnya menjadi 'Arab wannabes'. Tidak saja kehilangan agamanya, budayanya tapi juga bahasanya. Cilakanya orang Mesir sampai hari ini dianggap tidak cukup Islami oleh Muslim Arab. What hope the Indonesian Muslims have against the onslaught of Wahabis? Precious little.Kecuali kalau seluruh bangsa Indonesia menyadaribhw Islam itu dimaksud hanya untuk Mekkah dan mereka yg bermukim di sekitarnya. Dan yg lebih penting lagi: budaya, budi pekerti, tata kerama Indonesia adalah jauh lebih mulia dari yg berasal dari padang pasir Arabia. Hayo, saudara2 sebangsa dan setanah air banggalah dengan budaya dan adat-istiadat Nusantara. Gabriella ________________________________ From: itemabu2 itema...@gmail.com> To: proletar proletar@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013 6:43 AM Subject: [proletar] Penjajahan islam di Mali Kayak ginilah penjajahan yg dilakukan oleh Islam, hehehe... http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/02/mali-jihadis-sharia-black-africans Inside Gao where Arab jihadis took bloody sharia retribution on Mali's black Africans The people of Gao endured nine months of amputations and floggings under the rule of Islamist rebels – much of it aimed at ethnic groups Lindsey Hilsum in Gao The Observer, Saturday 2 February 2013 12.31 GMT The jihadis carried out amputations in the sandy square where the residents of Gao used to watch basketball. The men who ruled Gao for nine months, until French and Malian troops drove them out last weekend, replaced the words "Place de l'Indépendence" in the green, red and yellow of the national flag with simple white on black: Place de la Sharia. A thief would lose his right hand. Those accused of burglary would lose both right hand and left foot. On 21 December last year, people were assembled, as they had been several times before, and told to watch. "No one was allowed to speak," said Issa Alzouma. "Then they cut off my hand with a knife." Alzouma had been accused of stealing a motorbike, which he denies. At 39, he made a living digging gravel for construction companies. It was enough to support his wife and three children. Now he roams Gao in tattered clothes, the stump of his right arm wrapped in a grubby bandage, a flimsy black plastic bag dangling from his remaining wrist. Inside he keeps a few antibiotics and replacement bandages given by a Red Cross doctor who treated him at Gao hospital a week after his amputation. "The doctor had to cut in and remove flesh because it was infected," he said. "Under the bandage you can see my bones. It hurts and I feel as if my bones are coming out." Alzouma has no idea how he and his family will survive. "My wife just cries and cries," he said. His friend Algalas Yatara, who was also accused of stealing a motorbike, carries a sheaf of papers in Arabic in his remaining hand. He thinks it is the judgment but is not quite sure, as neither man can read Arabic. At least 12 men had hands or feet cut off after MUJAO (Movement for Jihad and Unity), and its allies in AQIM (al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb), took control of Gao last April. The exact number is not known because some were amputated in the military base where no non-jihadi was allowed. The mayor's office, a few yards from the punishment ground, was turned into a sharia court. Outside, the sand has turned black where the enforcers of hesbah, or justice, ground down cigarettes and whipped those found smoking. Inside, the floor is littered with documents, including a ring-binder with details of the women flogged for not wearing the veil. Family members were made to put a thumbprint to show they acknowledged the punishment and would supervise the accused in future. Suspects were confined to a small room where they were tied up and beaten, before being brought before Islamic judges, known as marabous, who sat every Monday and Thursday. Ali Altini and Mohammed Aklini were due to be executed for homosexuality the Friday before last. French air strikes saved their lives, as the jihadis who would have carried out the sentence were killed or fled. The two men, who deny they are gay, were arrested on 12 December, bound, beaten, then interrogated. "They asked me where the brothels are," said Altini. "I answered that I didn't know. Then they asked me to show them where people made pornographic movies. I answered again that I didn't know." According to Altini, his six interrogators were Pakistanis, who communicated through a local translator. Altini and Aklini were arraigned before three marabous, one of whom they believed to be a Tunisian. "The jihadis had their own marabous," said Altini. "They asked me if the rumours that I slept with men were true. They said that before the time of the Prophet such things were allowed, but now it is condemned by Islam." One marabou suggested that the men should be given a second chance, but another said they should face the death sentence. The final decision seems to have been taken by Abdul Hakim, a Moroccan who was MUJAO's leader in Gao, and Aliou Muhammar Touré, a local man who was appointed Islamic police commissioner. "Abdul Hakim and Aliou Muhammar came to visit us in the police station after the judgment," said Altini. "Aliou said: 'I will tie their hands and feet myself.' Abdul Hakim replied: 'Well, I will cut their throats myself.' Aliou wanted my parents to witness the execution." According to Gao residents, the victims of sharia punishments were from Mali's black African ethnic groups, while the jihadis were mostly lighter-skinned Arabs – both Malian and foreign – and Tuaregs. Touré, of the Songhai tribe, was one of the few black Malians to join MUJAO. "If you are a Tuareg or Arab, or if you look like them, they don't threaten you," said Alzouma, the amputee, who is from the Bella, the group traditionally used as slaves by the Tuareg. "Their people smuggle drugs, cigarettes and everything, but they don't threaten their own families, just black people – the Songhai, the Bella and the Bambara." A year ago Tuaregs rose to demand an independent state in the north. Many Tuareg officers deserted the army to join the rebellion. Some joined forces with jihadis, mostly Algerian or Malian Arabs, who were using the desert for kidnapping and smuggling. During the past nine months, in which they established an Islamist mini-state, jihadis from across the globe arrived in northern Mali. Ethnic tension has already led to reprisals. Graphic footage shows a mob tearing a jihadi fighter limb from limb. A vigilante group calling itself the Patrollers of Gao is combing the town for members of MUJAO. Last week they seized and beat several men in the marketplace, and one who was hiding in the hospital. Malian soldiers rescued the men, but they too speak with vitriol about those they see as traitors, especially the Tuareg. "We invited them into our homes and ate with them, but they turned their guns on us," said a senior army officer in Gao. "How can we trust them again?" In the last few days, the mayor of Gao, who returned from the capital, Bamako, last Sunday, has used local radio to call for tolerance and the rule of law, but neither the police force nor local administration has yet been reinstated. 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