gua punya pengikut? wah makasih atas pujiannya nub. selama ini sih gua ngerasa biasa2 aja ngga pernah kotbah kayak elu. tapi koq jadi banyak pengikutnya ya (kata lu).
lol. gua sering ngakak liat postingan lu nub. tapi ngakaknya bukan karena lu nulis high quality jokes, tapi karena tingkah lu yg childish (and primitive :D) itu. pertama, lu sering banget merasa menang debat bukan karena argumen lu yg bermutu tinggi, tapi hanya karena lawan debat lu lamaaaaa ngga posting2. padahal kan ngga semua member di sini pengangguran kayak elu atau uplik yg setiap saat melototin proletar. gua punya gawean euy. dan gua punya kehidupan di dunia nyata, punya hari libur, punya waktu buat keluarga, ngga kayak elu yg hari2nya cuman ngoprek mesin pengaduk kopi. nah sekarang coba lu liat sendiri, postingan ini udah beranak pinak berapa thread nub. thx to you sih, gara2 reply elu yg dogol itulah postingan ini jadi banyak yg reply. kedua, lu juga sering merasa bener hanya karena sebagian postingan lu ngga diquote lagi, mewek me rengek2 minta dibahas abis. padahal udah dijelasin ber kali2, bahwa kalo ngga diquote itu kemungkinan besar emang ngga perlu dibahas lagi karena bakalan berujung debat kusir, atau memang ngga mutu untuk dibahas. ketiga, semangat jualan (=kotbah kata si gerdy gamalama a.k.a meduguba) lu emang luar biasa, gua kasih 10 jempol deh kalo gua punya. saking semangatnya, lu jadi lupa sama rasa malu, atau memang sejak lahir lu ngga punya urat malu ya, bukan salah lu kalo gitu. nah soal jesus di postingan gua itu, sebenernya gua justru lagi nolongin lu untuk menjelaskan keajaiban jesus dari sisi science. jadi yg namanya hidup lagi setelah mati memang mungkin (toh ada marmot yg bisa 'mati' selama 8 bulan lalu idup lagi). elu bukannya makasih sama gua udah dibantuin eh malah ngacapruk cerita yg ngga mutu lagi. masalahnya, keajaiban2 itu jadi ngga istimewa karena banyak banget mahluk hidup yg punya 'keajaiban2' yg lebih mencengangkan. misal cacing planaria yg kepalanya bisa tumbuh lagi kalo copot. berhubung lu tinggal di ostrali, mungkin ada baiknya lu datengin si alan john miller nih. sapa tau tu bule bisa jalan di atas air juga. bisa nangis2 lu kegirangan ketemu sang bapa dari sorga. lol. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2333258/Alan-John-Miller-Australian-IT-worker-believes-Jesus.html Australian IT worker believes he is Jesus (At Easter, will he just turn himself off and then back on again?) Alan John Miller and his girlfriend claim to be Jesus and Mary Magdalene Miller runs the Divine Truth church from Kingaroy, Queensland A British neuroscientist has given up her job to move there By Olivia Williams PUBLISHED: 13:54 GMT, 30 May 2013 | UPDATED: 14:07 GMT, 30 May 2013 Alan John Miller says he 'remembered' in 2004 that he was Jesus Christ Religious figure: Alan John Miller says he 'remembered' in 2004 that he was Jesus Christ A former IT specialist who claims that he is Jesus Christ has attracted a following in his native Australia from as far afield as Britain and the U.S. Alan John Miller, 50, says that not only is he Jesus, but his girlfriend Mary Luck is Mary Magdalene, who according to the Bible was present at the crucifixion. In one recording he says: 'There's probably a million people who say they're Jesus and most of them are in asylums. 'But one of us has to be. How do I know I am? Because I remember everything about my life.' Mr Miller has 'very clear memories' of his crucifixion 2,000 years ago, but claims that he only 'remembered' that he was Jesus in 2004. He explains on his Divine Truth website that he and 'other Celestial Angels' tried to convey divine truth to an American man named James Padgett between 1914-23 in New York. However, 'unfortunately, no-one really fully understood the message that was given.' So Mr Miller and Mary Magdalene 'found a way to return to earth to demonstrate these Truths', with '7 soul pairs, or 14 people', to teach people themselves. Miller, a divorced father-of-two, said his first marriage broke down when he 'began to remember details' of the incarnation. Alan John Miller Holy couple: Miller with Mary Luck, who believes that she is Mary Magdalene Mr Miller now runs his Divine Truth church from his home near the small town of Kingaroy in the state of Queensland. He can attract up to 150 people to his sermons. More... Islamic radicals and parents who hit their children could soon be 'cured' by science, leading neurologist claims Hundreds of armed Buddhists on motorbikes roam the streets as sectarian violence spreads across Burma and minority Muslims are targeted Mr Miller and Miss Luck do not have conventional employment and their lifestyles appear to be funded by supporter donations though they say that followers are not pressed to give money. However, followers are encouraged to give money to them and British woman Louise 'Luli' Faver, 39, is a former neuroscientist who has given up her career to be closer to the couple. Alan John Miller Following: Miller has attracted up to 150 people to his sermons The Divine Truth website says: 'Luli does not have any other source of income aside from your donations and gifts, and she provides every service free-of-charge. Your donations in this section go directly towards Luli's living expenses. This allows Luli to do her voluntary work full-time.' Through DVDs, the internet and personal appearances AJ Miller is spreading his word globally. Another disciple, George Hamel, moved from California, leaving behind his wife and businesses so he can be closer to Mr Miller. Some 30 devoted followers have bought up much of the land surrounding Miller's compound, where he has been living since 2007. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2333258/Alan-John-Miller-Australian-IT-worker-believes-Jesus.html#ixzz2Z5DxAmen Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Nub" <nubtheologian@...> wrote: > > wahhh gua ga tega nge cut semuanya lagi jon kaya posting lu yang terakhir, > abis ini juga sampah sih. > pantesan sepi threadnya, kayanya lu udah mulai ditinggalin pengikut lu nih > hehehe. > > gini jon, > Yesus itu bikin mukjizat tujuannya bukan buat menangin title magician of the > year atau cuma sekedar supaya penonton tepuk tangan, trus besoknya dah lupa > lagi ama Dia. Magicnya Yesus itu bukan sekedar ngerubah kartu Jack jadi Ace > kaya stephen chow di god of gambler. > > Yesus itu bikin mukjizat ya buat nolong orang atau mau mengajar sesuatu. > Misalnya, > menyembuhkan orang lumpuh. > membuat orang buta bisa melihat. > membangkitkan orang mati. > > jadi kalau lu datang ke Yesus, penyakit 'lion king' (LOL) lu itu pun bisa > disembuhkan Yesus jon. percayalah. > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "johny_indon" <johny_indon@> wrote: > > > > ini bukan lagi ngomongin agama ya, jangan terkecoh dulu. > > > > berdasarkan paparan nub the drunken priest, jesus bisa bangkit > > dari kematiannya dan itu mungkin terjadi, semungkin royal flush dalam poker. > > > > oke, kita ikutin pola pikir pak pendeta von barista ini. > > > > secara scientific, ketika biological parts mahluk hidup rusak > > dan sel2nya tidak bisa melakukan regenerasi kembali, maka > > disitulah awal kematian mahluk hidup. > > tapi jika sel2nya bisa melakukan regenerasi, maka kematian bisa dihindarkan. > > > > contoh, misal tangan kita terluka sayatan pisau 5 senti. > > apakah orang bisa mati karena luka sayatan secuil itu? > > bisa saja, kalau tubuh kita tidak mampu regenerasi sel di bagian sayatan > > tsb. > > karena tubuh kita bisa melakukan regenerasi sel kulit dsb., maka > > kematian akibat kehilangan darah atau infeksi gara2 luka sayatan pisau bisa > > dihindarkan. > > tapi bagaimana dgn organ tubuh lainnya? bisakah jantung yg bocor > > nambal sendiri secara otomatis? tentu tidak bisa. > > > > nah, kalau benar jesus bisa bangkit lagi dari kematian karena > > adanya regenerasi organ2 tubuh yg sudah rusak (diantaranya > > karena ditombak tentara romawi itu), maka bangkit > > dari kematian itu dimungkinkan, walaupun kata "mati" jadinya > > harus didefinisikan kembali. > > > > tapi kalaupun itu mungkin, rasanya itupun ngga lebih ajaib dari apa yg bisa > > dilakukan salamander. > > karena salamander mampu meregenerasi organ tubuhnya sendiri, misalnya > > kakinya yg buntung bisa tumbuh lagi sempurna. > > bukan cuman kakinya, tapi dari otak, ginjal, hati, hingga sumsum tulang > > belakangnya bisa tumbuh lagi. gila ngga? > > begitu juga ikan, bisa meregenerasi bagian otak, mata, dan sirip. > > bahkan ada sejenis cacing yg bisa menggenerate kepalanya sendiri > > setelah kepalanya lepas. > > > > apakah itu semua miracle? > > > > dari perspektif manusia, yg kalo matanya lepas ngga tumbuh lagi, > > bisa aja disebut begitu (apalagi si nub, dia setuju banget kalo itu > > miracle). > > tapi di dunia ikan dan salamander, soal numbuhin ulang ginjal mah proses > > normal kayak nyembuhin borok aja. > > > > para ilmuwan saat ini sedang meneliti bagian genetik yg bisa > > mengaktifkan proses regenerasi body parts tersebut spt yg terjadi > > pada salamander. > > dna nya udah ketauan, tapi bagaimana "mengaktifkan" dna itu masih belum > > ketauan. > > jadi jangan kaget kalo suatu waktu nanti banyak "jesus jesus" > > gentayangan di planet ini. > > saat anaknya si nub kupingnya lepas gara2 disabet sangkur tentara > > (gapapa ceritanya agak beda dikit ya nub), 15 menit kemudian itu > > daun kuping langsung tumbuh lagi. > > > > asik kan? > > > > > > http://www.eurostemcell.org/factsheet/regeneration-what-does-it-mean-and-how-does-it-work > > > > itu kalau kematiannya karena ada kerusakan tubuh. > > kalau "mati" karena pura2 mati alias mati suri, maka kemampuan > > mati suri nya jesus juga bisa dikalahkan oleh marmot. > > karena marmot bisa mati suri hingga 8 bulan, ngga makan ngga minum, > > bisa nyetel detak jantungnya sendiri dan helaan nafasnya seminimal > > mungkin agar tidak boros enerji. > > > > http://www.earthrangers.com/wildwire/top-10/top-ten-hibernating-animals/ > > > > kalau kemampuan jalan di atas air kayaknya udah bosen ya > > liat video kadal yg lari2 di sungai itu. > > tinggal disearch pake keyword "jesus lizard" di youtube langsung dapet koq. > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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