Hi, Hmm, i'm not so good at compression and multi-band compression i'm afraid. I'm not really certain what does what there. I know what the attack and release parameters do but the other ones are a bit confusing to me. I feel like a hopeless case, very silly. /Krister
2 feb 2014 kl. 01:09 skrev Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com>: > Do you have a good handle on compression and multiband compression? These are > must know building blocks for mixing and mastering. Understanding frequency > responses and how they open up not only individual tracks and instruments, > but intire mixes when on a stareo bus are just as important to understand > too. You see, when your mixing a project you are baking a cake with the right > amounts of ingreadients, at the right temperture and Mastering is the > frosting and the decarations on top. Each part has a seprat process, but they > eventually need to complament each other as a whole. So in this case, if a > person tries to get the mastering down, without the mixing concepts it is > like trying to throw a beautiful topping/icing on acake that taist like crap. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krister Ekstrom" > <kris...@kristersplace.com> > To: <ptaccess@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 9:27 AM > Subject: Re: Any good mastering plugin out there? > > > Thanks, i think that's good advise actually. I probably will have to learn > what plugs do what and what i can use. > /Krister > > 1 feb 2014 kl. 01:10 skrev TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com>: > >> At this stage in the game i honestly don't think you should be looking at >> any plug ins outside of what pro tools comes with. All the pro tools plug >> ins has presets for most instrument types with a few final mix/master >> presets as well. Presets are a great starting point, but learn why they work >> and how they do what they do. and how to fine tune to your song. The stock >> plug ins are great and there are even popular songs that were done entirely >> with pro tools stock plug ins. Once you have a handle on those and have a >> better idea of what you want, then you can start spending money on plug ins >> with more confidence. First step get the best sounds you can before >> recording. Choosing the right virtual synth/drum synth sounds, or moving the >> one microphone you have around till you get the instrument or voice you are >> trying to record sound the best it can before hitting record. Also the firs >> t Plug in to hone in on and learn about is Eq. It will be probably your >> most used tool for both mixing and mastering. you can also grab the >> quizztones iOS app to do some EQ ear training. Next important beast to >> tackle is compression. Come to grips with EQ and compression along with >> getting the best sources of recordings you can and you can get 80% to 90% >> of the way there before you add anything else to your mix or master. >> On Jan 31, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Also, remember this, if you don't have good mixing skills, these Mastering >>> plugins will often only magnify any lack of mixing skills, or even worse, >>> mask the problems leading a person to think they did a good job. At that >>> point the Mastering plugs can become a crutch that cause people to think >>> they have a good sounding project until it is matched up against good mixes >>> and mastering skills. I find people who have the same plugins as me, and >>> bring their stuff over to the studio to play it and once I play a few >>> projects they can't believe that we have the same tools. They just haven't >>> paid their dues, in the excitement to find the magic bullet to fix their >>> mixing problems they have looked for band aids to cover up their ear sores >>> instead of really learning the anatomy of a good mix. I am finding that my >>> understanding of mixing is growing much more as I get back to the basics of >>> engineering/mixing. I realize how silly I was when I got my first bundle of >>> mastering plugins. Getting into the basics of compression, multiband >>> compression, Limiting, EQ frequencies, how those frequencies affect >>> instruments, vocals, mic proximity affect, room acoustics and so on and on >>> will be so impacting that a person won't even need to ask about mastering >>> plugins because once they read about that plug they will be able to tell if >>> it is exactly what they need or not. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csma...@cogeco.ca> >>> >>> To: <ptaccess@googlegroups.com> >>> >>> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 6:16 AM >>> >>> Subject: Re: Any good mastering plugin out there? >>> >>> >>> >>>> As someone who does mastering, I am dead set against using presets in that >>>> manner. There is far too much of that homogeneity now. It reminds me of >>>> the equalizer presets on my mp3 player. One is called rock, another is >>>> called classical, another is called jazz. Wow, you mean if I pick one, it >>>> will make everything sound poppy or rocky or jazzy? That's so cool! >>>> (sarcasm) >>>> >>>> That said, just about any limiter, compressor, equalizer etc. will have >>>> presets for various tasks, and of course you can use said presets as a >>>> starting point. Learn from them, but all source material is unique. >>>> >>>> Read the Bob Katz book (2nd Edition), and do lots and lots of listening to >>>> world-class recordings. Mastering is much more subtle than mixing, and >>>> requires a holistic mindset. As long as you have a nice transparent >>>> compressor, a linear-phaze equalizer, and some mid/side tools, you can do >>>> a heck of a lot. The tools aren't as important as your ears, your >>>> listening space, and your experience. >>>> >>>> The idea of taking a full mastering suite like Ozone or Fab Filter Pro and >>>> picking the rock preset for your rock mix, thinking it will somehow be >>>> "better", is anathema to what I do. Talk about kill a butterfly with a >>>> sledge hammer! I apologize if that is not your intent at all. I'm seeing a >>>> lot of that cookie cutter homogeneity these days, along with four steps to >>>> mastering at home type articles. >>>> >>>> Ok, rant over. LOL I really need to have that first coffee of the day! >>>> >>>> I'm a Windows guy, but check out Slate Digital FG-X for an extremely >>>> transparent compressor and a really nice limiter. Also check out their >>>> Virtual Bus Compressors for really colored analog-sounding options. Their >>>> tape simulator VTM is wonderful, in case you want things to sound like >>>> they've gone through a 1/2" deck at 15 IPS. >>>> >>>> There are lots of m/s and phase adjustment plugs out there, many of them >>>> free. When I don't like the limiter section of FGX, I usually reach for >>>> Voxengo's Elephant. It has several algorithms to chose from, and you will >>>> want to try them all to find out what gets you the results you are after >>>> for the mix you are working with. >>>> >>>> I haven't used it, but the mastering guys rave about Algorithmix Red and >>>> Orange as a pair of excelent linear-phaze equalizers, but just about any >>>> linear-phaze EQ will do the job, as long as your ears can home in like a >>>> lazer on the part of the spectrum that needs tweaking. Waves make one, >>>> Ozone comes with one, Fab Filter make one, etc. >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> P.S. For those of you wanting extremely transparent EQ with seemingly no >>>> ringing, keep an eye out for Eiosis Air EQ. It is almost out of beta >>>> testing and it's magic! We're so used to the effects of typical EQ that >>>> for a minute, you think the plug-in must not be doing it's job, because it >>>> isn't as obvious. >>>> >>>> At 06:55 AM 1/31/2014, you wrote: >>>>> Hi there. >>>>> I don't know if this even exists in the world of recording to a computer, >>>>> but on the digital porta studios i've seen, there were mastering tools >>>>> you could use with various presets for different genres, are there such >>>>> mastering plugins out there that don't cost an arm, a leg and half the >>>>> body to get? >>>>> /Krister >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. 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