Chris, As you said, in bars and beats, it represents bars and beats so, following that logic, in minutes and seconds, it represents minutes and seconds. Figure out how much time you need in whichever format your session is in and go for it.
Slau On May 2, 2014, at 1:29 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: > Shruggs, > > That's not what I meant. I meant what does the numerical values represent? > In beats/bars it obviously represents bars. In hour minute seconds, what is > it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what? > > Chris. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csma...@cogeco.ca> > To: <ptaccess@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM > Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions > > >> well, how long do you need to get ready to play? >> >> If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, that >> obviously depends on the tempo of your tune. >> At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: >>> Slau, >>> >>> So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars? How do I calculate if I'm >>> doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of bars, beats, ticks? >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com>Slau Halatyn >>> To: <mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>ptaccess@googlegroups.com >>> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM >>> Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions >>> >>> OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need enough pre >>> roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, put on headphones >>> and get ready to sing. How many bars do you think that'll be? 8? 10? >>> Whatever you think it should be, type that number into the Pre roll field. >>> The Post roll value doesn't matter as much because who cares how long the >>> song continues playing after you've finished the record pass. If the pre >>> roll value is 0, you'll have no pre roll and you'll be recording as soon as >>> you press Command-space bar. The purpose of the pre roll is to get a >>> running start, figuratively and, in your case, literally. >>> On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>> <<mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> So, I'm confused. What do the pre and post roll values do/indicate, if >>>> not 0, how do I determine what they should be set to, or does it really >>>> not honest matter. Just pick a random number so's long as it isn't 0. >>>> >>>> Chris. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: <mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com>Slau Halatyn >>>> To: <mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>ptaccess@googlegroups.com >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:42 PM >>>> Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions >>>> >>>> Chris, >>>> >>>> You specifically asked for step-by-step instructions and, when you request >>>> something like that, it's going to sound complicated. It's not. >>>> >>>> 1. Select a range within which you wish to record. >>>> 2.Enable Pre/Post roll with Command-k and make sure that the pre and post >>>> roll values in the Transport window are set to something other than zero. >>>> 3. Record. >>>> >>>> It's rather simple. Another alternative is to buy a USB extension cable >>>> and keep your keyboard close. Punch in by simply pressing Command-Space >>>> bar where you wish to record. Hit space bar to stop. You don't even have >>>> to be in Pre/Post roll to do that. >>>> >>>> Slau >>>> On May 1, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>> <<mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Slau, >>>>> >>>>> This isn't you at all, you did an excellent job explaining, but I must >>>>> admit, you went way over my head! I know you do audio stuff for a >>>>> living, so it's not gonna be quick, but I'm in no hurry. Would you be >>>>> willing to make me an audio demonstration of how this works? I'm sorry, >>>>> but via text, this just isn't making sense at all. It's not your falt, >>>>> It's just that it seems this is a very hard concept to grasp via text. >>>>> >>>>> I thought it would be more easy than this, like select the portion of >>>>> audio you want to record, then toggle on punch in, arm the track, hit >>>>> record, and you're done. It seem like there is way more to it than that >>>>> though. >>>>> >>>>> Wasn't there something like, num pad 4, or was it 6 to turn on punch in, >>>>> or is this about the easiest way to do it. >>>>> >>>>> Chris. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: <mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com>Slau Halatyn >>>>> To: <mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>ptaccess@googlegroups.com >>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:36 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions >>>>> >>>>> Chris, >>>>> >>>>> Go to the Transport window. >>>>> Click once on the Pre-roll amount. Assuming you're in bars and beats, >>>>> type the number 1 and press return. The Pre-roll amount will be one bar >>>>> and Pre-roll will automatically be enabled. The button appears to the >>>>> left of the numeric field you just entered. >>>>> Move down to the Post-roll field and follow the same steps. >>>>> >>>>> Now that Pre and Post roll are enabled, I'd recommend temporarily turning >>>>> them off with Command-k. >>>>> >>>>> Go to the bar/beat where you wish to punch in. Select the range of bars >>>>> and/or beats you wish to record. Once you've made your selection, press >>>>> Command-k to enable Pre/Post roll. If you press record, you'll hear one >>>>> bar before your selected range as pre-roll and you'll only be in record >>>>> from the selection point. Pro Tools will record through the selection and >>>>> exit record mode for the final bar of post roll. >>>>> >>>>> If you want two bars of pre-roll, obviously, substitute 2 for 1 when >>>>> typing in the pre-roll value. >>>>> >>>>> Here's a tip: don't forget to turn off Pre/Post roll when you're done >>>>> with your punch-in. When you try to navigate and get to a particular bar, >>>>> I guarantee it'll confuse you when you hear the music from the previous >>>>> bar and you'll swear that you thought you meant to go to bar 41 and >>>>> you'll be hearing bar 40 and all the while it'll be because you actually >>>>> are at bar 41 but pre-roll is causing you to hear bar 40 first. >>>>> >>>>> I'll let someone else take the other questions. >>>>> >>>>> Slau >>>>> >>>>> On May 1, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>>> <<mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> OK, I do understand that there are quite a few questions here, but any >>>>>> help would be appreciated with any of these. >>>>>> >>>>>> First of all, I'd like to talk about punch in/punch outs. Sometimes, >>>>>> I'll be recording a vocal track, be it lead, or backing, and I may hit a >>>>>> line a little flat, or a little sharp. More times than not, flat. >>>>>> Sometimes, it's in a part of the song which makes it very tricky to get >>>>>> kuh boom right on key with no lead-in warning. Yeah, I totally get I >>>>>> could then just back up a ways and record a little more than needed just >>>>>> for some wiggle room, but why do that if the part right before sounds >>>>>> flawless? I don't want to chance ruinning a perfectly good measure just >>>>>> to get the bar after it sounding good. That just seems a little over >>>>>> kill. Yeah, I know about the playlist option in the edit window on each >>>>>> track, and yes I know about comping. I confess I don't do it much, but >>>>>> I think I'm gonna start getting myself more in the habbit of it. If I >>>>>> want a pollished recording, then face it, sometimes you have to do the >>>>>> more dirty tedious work, but in the long run, it's well worth it. >>>>>> Anyway, so what I'd like to do is a punch in/out. This is just an >>>>>> example. It doesn't mean it's the song I'm working with, but it's one >>>>>> that I know must people know, so it'll make my point really well. Let's >>>>>> take the song Take it Easy by The Eagles. I, natrually am really not a >>>>>> tennor. I kind of, ish, can do it, but not real well. So let's take >>>>>> the chorus. Take it easy, take it easy! Don't let the sound of your own >>>>>> words drive you crazy. Lighten up while you still can. Let's say I'm >>>>>> in the key of G. This means on lighten up, when I hit that C chord, my >>>>>> voice has to hit that G4. So, basically, the G above middle C. For me, >>>>>> that's way stretching it! I can do it, but it's a major struggle. >>>>>> Notice, I said struggle, I did not say strain. I'm not straining to hit >>>>>> it, trust me. I can hit it, just not very full strength usually, at >>>>>> least not on the first try. I usually have to do it a few times to >>>>>> warm/loosen up. So, what I'm thinking is, if I had a way I could start >>>>>> playing the session right where my vocals say Don't let the sound of >>>>>> your own words drive you crazy... I could sing along with that part, >>>>>> not recording, then as soon as I get past that, have the record engage >>>>>> automatically, let me then keep singing seemlessly, lighten up while you >>>>>> still can, don't even try to understand, just find a place to take your >>>>>> stand, and take it easy. After that, have the record disengage all by >>>>>> itself. My mike isn't near enough to my workstation that I can have my >>>>>> hands on the keyboard, nor is it easy for me to hit that line with no >>>>>> prior warning to lead up to it. I just feel I need to easily work my >>>>>> way into it. So yeah, if this can be done, please tell me literally step >>>>>> by step, keystroke by keystroke what I'd hit to do it. >>>>>> >>>>>> My second question is, let's say I'm doing a slow country song, and at >>>>>> the very end, the last two or three bars need to be slower tempo, giving >>>>>> me a ending retard kind of effect. If you wonder what I'm talking >>>>>> about, listen, for instance to the end of Every Light in the House is on >>>>>> by Trace Adkins. That's a perfect! example! So, I know in the event, >>>>>> tempo operations window, how to go to constant, and set a constant BPM, >>>>>> but then, how do I have it do a retard for me? >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm almost done, just two more things. If I'm in say, 4/4 time, and all >>>>>> a sudden, at the start of a bar, I need to switch time signatures >>>>>> without moving the tempo, is there a way I can do that? >>>>>> >>>>>> Finally, If I've inserted midi tracks into my session, and have their >>>>>> output paths going to different xpand2 instrument tracks, is there then >>>>>> a way that I could save that arrangement as a .mid midi file? I know it >>>>>> won't save audio, and I know the samples in the xpand2 tracks wouldn't >>>>>> be saved as midi. I'm perfectly aware of that. I know the whole thing >>>>>> about midi isn't sound. I know it's just 1's and 0's, hince, why I'm >>>>>> routing their outputs to instrument tracks. I just wonder if I could >>>>>> then take those midi tracks, assign the correct GM patches to them like >>>>>> piano, guitar, base, drums on channel 10, etc. then export them down >>>>>> where any midi player, even something simple as WinAmp on Windows could >>>>>> then play the .mid file back with the correct patches in place, and >>>>>> would sound decent. >>>>>> >>>>>> Again, I'm sorry for all the questions, but again, I trust you all will >>>>>> pitch in and help me out here a bit. >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to >>>>>> <mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to >>>>> <mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to >>>>> <mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to >>>> <mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to >>>> <mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to >>> <mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to >>> <mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. 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