I'll save us the bother and not reply in future.
I'm not sure what use a counter that only goes as fine as minute or
hour increments would be for recording but ok ...
At 11:20 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:
I think what I meant was I didn't realize that you specified
both. I didn't realize that when on bars and beats you specified
both. I thought it was an absolute bar value. In other words, I
thought that you only could say 3 bars. I didn't realize you could
say 3 bars, 2 beats. Same goes with hours, minutes, seconds. I was
under the impression you only could specify an exact value. I
didn't realize it was flexible enough to say 1 minute 30 seconds. I
thought you'd have to round the seconds up or down to the nearest
minute, and only could specify a min value, not a second value as
well. I thought it had to either be 1 minute, or 2 minutes, it
couldn't be 1:30. So I was asking with that assumption, which now I
know was incorrect, what the different values would
represent. Would it be an absolute minute, or would I specify in
seconds. Again, now I see it's both.
Frankly, your terse comments really are not amusing to me! I was
really trying to ask for help, and the whole quote: minutes and
seconds are... well? um... minutes and seconds, was extremely
uncalled for! I was just asking for help, you don't have to be such
a smart-butt about it.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csma...@cogeco.ca>
To: <ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
You lost me there. minutes represents minutes! Seconds represents,
well, seconds.
At 01:29 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:
Shruggs,
That's not what I meant. I meant what does the numerical values
represent? In beats/bars it obviously represents bars. In hour
minute seconds, what is it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what?
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csma...@cogeco.ca>
To: <ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
well, how long do you need to get ready to play?
If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds,
that obviously depends on the tempo of your tune.
At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:
Slau,
So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars? How do I
calculate if I'm doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of
bars, beats, ticks?
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com>Slau Halatyn
To: <mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need
enough pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your
mic, put on headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do
you think that'll be? 8? 10? Whatever you think it should be,
type that number into the Pre roll field. The Post roll value
doesn't matter as much because who cares how long the song
continues playing after you've finished the record pass. If the
pre roll value is 0, you'll have no pre roll and you'll be
recording as soon as you press Command-space bar. The purpose of
the pre roll is to get a running start, figuratively and, in
your case, literally.
On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<<mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
So, I'm confused. What do the pre and post roll values
do/indicate, if not 0, how do I determine what they should be
set to, or does it really not honest matter. Just pick a
random number so's long as it isn't 0.
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com>Slau Halatyn
To: <mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
Chris,
You specifically asked for step-by-step instructions and, when
you request something like that, it's going to sound complicated. It's not.
1. Select a range within which you wish to record.
2.Enable Pre/Post roll with Command-k and make sure that the
pre and post roll values in the Transport window are set to
something other than zero.
3. Record.
It's rather simple. Another alternative is to buy a USB
extension cable and keep your keyboard close. Punch in by
simply pressing Command-Space bar where you wish to record. Hit
space bar to stop. You don't even have to be in Pre/Post roll to do that.
Slau
On May 1, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<<mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Slau,
This isn't you at all, you did an excellent job explaining,
but I must admit, you went way over my head! I know you do
audio stuff for a living, so it's not gonna be quick, but I'm
in no hurry. Would you be willing to make me an audio
demonstration of how this works? I'm sorry, but via text,
this just isn't making sense at all. It's not your falt, It's
just that it seems this is a very hard concept to grasp via text.
I thought it would be more easy than this, like select the
portion of audio you want to record, then toggle on punch in,
arm the track, hit record, and you're done. It seem like
there is way more to it than that though.
Wasn't there something like, num pad 4, or was it 6 to turn on
punch in, or is this about the easiest way to do it.
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com>Slau Halatyn
To: <mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
Chris,
Go to the Transport window.
Click once on the Pre-roll amount. Assuming you're in bars and
beats, type the number 1 and press return. The Pre-roll amount
will be one bar and Pre-roll will automatically be enabled.
The button appears to the left of the numeric field you just entered.
Move down to the Post-roll field and follow the same steps.
Now that Pre and Post roll are enabled, I'd recommend
temporarily turning them off with Command-k.
Go to the bar/beat where you wish to punch in. Select the
range of bars and/or beats you wish to record. Once you've
made your selection, press Command-k to enable Pre/Post roll.
If you press record, you'll hear one bar before your selected
range as pre-roll and you'll only be in record from the
selection point. Pro Tools will record through the selection
and exit record mode for the final bar of post roll.
If you want two bars of pre-roll, obviously, substitute 2 for
1 when typing in the pre-roll value.
Here's a tip: don't forget to turn off Pre/Post roll when
you're done with your punch-in. When you try to navigate and
get to a particular bar, I guarantee it'll confuse you when
you hear the music from the previous bar and you'll swear that
you thought you meant to go to bar 41 and you'll be hearing
bar 40 and all the while it'll be because you actually are at
bar 41 but pre-roll is causing you to hear bar 40 first.
I'll let someone else take the other questions.
Slau
On May 1, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<<mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
OK, I do understand that there are quite a few questions
here, but any help would be appreciated with any of these.
First of all, I'd like to talk about punch in/punch
outs. Sometimes, I'll be recording a vocal track, be it
lead, or backing, and I may hit a line a little flat, or a
little sharp. More times than not, flat. Sometimes, it's in
a part of the song which makes it very tricky to get kuh boom
right on key with no lead-in warning. Yeah, I totally get I
could then just back up a ways and record a little more than
needed just for some wiggle room, but why do that if the part
right before sounds flawless? I don't want to chance
ruinning a perfectly good measure just to get the bar after
it sounding good. That just seems a little over kill. Yeah,
I know about the playlist option in the edit window on each
track, and yes I know about comping. I confess I don't do it
much, but I think I'm gonna start getting myself more in the
habbit of it. If I want a pollished recording, then face it,
sometimes you have to do the more dirty tedious work, but in
the long run, it's well worth it. Anyway, so what I'd like
to do is a punch in/out. This is just an example. It
doesn't mean it's the song I'm working with, but it's one
that I know must people know, so it'll make my point really
well. Let's take the song Take it Easy by The Eagles. I,
natrually am really not a tennor. I kind of, ish, can do it,
but not real well. So let's take the chorus. Take it easy,
take it easy! Don't let the sound of your own words drive you
crazy. Lighten up while you still can. Let's say I'm in the
key of G. This means on lighten up, when I hit that C chord,
my voice has to hit that G4. So, basically, the G above
middle C. For me, that's way stretching it! I can do it,
but it's a major struggle. Notice, I said struggle, I did
not say strain. I'm not straining to hit it, trust me. I
can hit it, just not very full strength usually, at least not
on the first try. I usually have to do it a few times to
warm/loosen up. So, what I'm thinking is, if I had a way I
could start playing the session right where my vocals say
Don't let the sound of your own words drive you crazy... I
could sing along with that part, not recording, then as soon
as I get past that, have the record engage automatically, let
me then keep singing seemlessly, lighten up while you still
can, don't even try to understand, just find a place to take
your stand, and take it easy. After that, have the record
disengage all by itself. My mike isn't near enough to my
workstation that I can have my hands on the keyboard, nor is
it easy for me to hit that line with no prior warning to lead
up to it. I just feel I need to easily work my way into it.
So yeah, if this can be done, please tell me literally step
by step, keystroke by keystroke what I'd hit to do it.
My second question is, let's say I'm doing a slow country
song, and at the very end, the last two or three bars need to
be slower tempo, giving me a ending retard kind of
effect. If you wonder what I'm talking about, listen, for
instance to the end of Every Light in the House is on by
Trace Adkins. That's a perfect! example! So, I know in the
event, tempo operations window, how to go to constant, and
set a constant BPM, but then, how do I have it do a retard for me?
I'm almost done, just two more things. If I'm in say, 4/4
time, and all a sudden, at the start of a bar, I need to
switch time signatures without moving the tempo, is there a way I can do that?
Finally, If I've inserted midi tracks into my session, and
have their output paths going to different xpand2 instrument
tracks, is there then a way that I could save that
arrangement as a .mid midi file? I know it won't save audio,
and I know the samples in the xpand2 tracks wouldn't be saved
as midi. I'm perfectly aware of that. I know the whole
thing about midi isn't sound. I know it's just 1's and 0's,
hince, why I'm routing their outputs to instrument tracks. I
just wonder if I could then take those midi tracks, assign
the correct GM patches to them like piano, guitar, base,
drums on channel 10, etc. then export them down where any
midi player, even something simple as WinAmp on Windows could
then play the .mid file back with the correct patches in
place, and would sound decent.
Again, I'm sorry for all the questions, but again, I trust
you all will pitch in and help me out here a bit.
Chris.
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