hey guys sorry about the blank text yesterday I had a session  come in that led 
to a gig that lead  to rest today
 I was wondering Chris were  you able to complete the complaint process

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> On Jan 24, 2015, at 2:21 PM, Gordon Kent <dbmu...@cybernex.net> wrote:
> 
>               Hi:
> I felt rather proud of myself a few days ago.  This is on Windows, but I was 
> able to activate the ilok key for a demo of autotune 8.  This did involve 
> using OCR with Jaws.  Once you click on the "sign in" button, which is 
> recognized by the ocr, you will be on the username field.  Type in your user 
> name and tab once to the password and enter that in.  Tab once and there is a 
> check box "remember password" I think.  Tab again and you will be on the 
> "next" button.  Press enter.  Do another OCR.  If you did everything right, 
> you should see a fair representation of your ilok and the licenses on it. If 
> something went wrong, you'll see an "account problem" message.  You'll need 
> to press enter and retype everything.  Just to be sure, press end and 
> backspace over any characters that are there.  When you are logged in, try 
> running OCR after pressing tab several times.  If you see something like 
> "show all licenses, click on it and run OCR.  If you see the name of the 
> license you want to transfer, right click on it.  This will bring up a menu 
> but it won't be spoken.
> Pressing a should select the "activate license option, but do another OCR to 
> be sure.  Press enter.  You will be in the "choose location" dialog.  Do an 
> OCR and find the name of your ilok and do that weird lock and release click. 
> You should be asked "do you want to activate?"  Find OK or Yes or whatever 
> and click it.  You should see "successful."
> I know this is not in any way a practical solution, and it doesn't let Pace 
> off the hook, but if you really need to get your software going it's worth a 
> try.   There obviously is no way to do this on a Mac with voice over.  I 
> can't understand why a program that is strictly a utility like a license 
> manager can't be writen as normal html or  in Java.  It's not like it has to 
> look glitzy or something, it's just an installation for God's sake.
> Gord
> -----Original Message----- From: Chris Smart
> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 12:29 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Pace Ilok
> 
> LOL blank again Mike!
> 
> At 12:15 PM 1/24/2015, you wrote:
> 
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Jan 24, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> > Mike, your reply was blank.
>> >
>> > At 11:14 AM 1/24/2015, you wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> > On Jan 24, 2015, at 10:02 AM, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > that is, if I can get the category
>> comboboxes to work with Jaws and either IE or Firefox. So far, no such luck. 
>> Where do we complain to the BBB about the BBB itself? LOL
>> >> >
>> >> > At 10:57 AM 1/24/2015, you wrote:
>> >> >> good stuff
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Jan 24, 2015, at 9:45 AM, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ok.
>> >> >> > I'm filling out my complaint now.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > By the way, if you check radio buttons
>> to specify that the complaint has to do with descrimination, the next screen 
>> tries to send you elsewhere.  Leave that stuff unchecked and you may proceed.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Chris
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > At 10:43 AM 1/24/2015, you wrote:
>> >> >> >> so this particular thread can stay
>> Ilok  specific, let's take one fight at a time... on the other hand Avid has 
>> been a where of this situation for over a yearso make of  that what you may
>> >> >> >> well I posted the information for
>> those of you that would like to contact them you may
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Sent from  my iPhone
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > On Jan 24, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Ricky
>> Prevatte <rickypreva...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Let's proceed with caution but let's
>> proceed. Rememberavid has already put out the challenge to the third-party 
>> companies to make everything as accessible as possible for us. I guess the 
>> same thing would go for I lock as well as plug in.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> On Jan 24, 2015, at 10:01 AM, CHUCK
>> REICHEL <soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Hi Mike,
>> >> >> >> >> EXCELLENT!
>> >> >> >> >> Your'e correct its time to take action! :)
>> >> >> >> >> Also if Universal audio doesn't
>> announce their accessibility Breakthroughs for there UAD Products this NAMM 
>> show as they have been "whispering" about, They should be next on the list!
>> >> >> >> >> If you want it solved you got to get involved! :)
>> >> >> >> >> Talk soon
>> >> >> >> >> Chuck
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>> On Jan 24, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mike Lockett wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Hey Guys,
>> >> >> >> >>> This Pace issue is becoming a joke.
>> >> >> >> >>> The fact that we purchase products that depends on an Ilok
>> >> >> >> >>> authorization from a company
>> ‬œPace Antiti-Piracy.i.inc.† who is a a where of
>> >> >> >> >>> the accessibility problems and
>> still havenâ€Â¬™t ¢t solve them is
>> s
>> >> >> >> >>> unacceptable…
>> >> >> >> >>> Now Slau has been in contact with
>> Pace, but there are some things we
>> >> >> >> >>> can do to help move the process along…
>> >> >> >> >>>   First here’s their ir phone and fax nx number.
>> >> >> .
>> >> >> >> >>> Phone: (408) 377-9774Fax: (408) 377-9775:
>> >> >> >> >>> We should all call that number and
>> rather its Sales or support make
>> >> >> >> >>> them a where of the issue.
>> >> >> >> >>>   The next step is to file a
>> complaint at the “B“BBBÃB†/Better Business
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >>> Bureaus web site,
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> http://www.bbb.org/losangelessiliconvalley/business-reviews/computers-hardware-software-and-services/pace-anti-piracy-in-san-jose-ca-220487/complaints
>> >> >> >> >>> Companies like Pace live and die by these ratings.
>> >> >> >> >>> I’ll give you an
>> examxample of what haphappens whenhen they receive a complaint
>> >> >> >> >>> through the BBB:
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> “X
>> 
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Complaint
>> >> >> >> >>> Pace AP would not respond to my
>> issue in a timely or communicative fashion.
>> >> >> >> >>> After purchasing a software
>> product that uses the Ilok protection
>> >> >> >> >>> system, I was required to download
>> the new License Manager software to
>> >> >> >> >>> authorize the
>> >> >> >> >>> Use of the software on my
>> computer. Prior to this, the iLok had been
>> >> >> >> >>> working fine using the web browser
>> authorization system and all of my
>> >> >> >> >>> iLok products
>> >> >> >> >>> Were running just fine. After
>> installing the software, I was unable to
>> >> >> >> >>> get any of the software to operate on my computer, including >> 
>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> the
>> >> >> >> >>> software that had
>> >> >> >> >>> Previously been authorized.
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> After contacting Pace, they
>> directed me to install the latest version
>> >> >> >> >>> of software which I already had
>> done and offered a few minor steps
>> >> >> >> >>> which took a couple
>> >> >> >> >>> of minutes and did not fix the
>> problem either. They asked for some
>> >> >> >> >>> files from my computer, and they
>> said they were working on a solution.
>> >> >> >> >>> It is now 3 weeks
>> >> >> >> >>> after my first service request and I still do not have my >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> issue
>> >> >> >> >>> resolved. There is no direct
>> support line or email I can write to, so
>> >> >> >> >>> the only way to get
>> >> >> >> >>> help is to respond back to any
>> messages I receive from the company.
>> >> >> >> >>> During this time, the least amount
>> of time between responses has been
>> >> >> >> >>> 1 day, with most
>> >> >> >> >>> responses coming after 3 or 4 days.
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> I have found their support system completely unacceptable and
>> >> >> >> >>> incapable of handling the problems
>> they have created by releasing this
>> >> >> >> >>> software with no way
>> >> >> >> >>> of ensuring that those affected
>> will be able to return to their prior
>> >> >> >> >>> working state. Given that the problem stems from the iLok
>> >> >> >> >>> authorization system, and
>> >> >> >> >>> not with the original company, I
>> have no way of asking for a refund or
>> >> >> >> >>> return on the software. I
>> currently have over $1000 worth of software
>> >> >> >> >>> that I've
>> >> >> >> >>> purchased from other companies unable to be used due to this
>> >> >> >> >>> third-party protection software.
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> I understand that they are busy
>> due to this new system, but their
>> >> >> >> >>> support response has been
>> completely inadequate and I feel my issue is
>> >> >> >> >>> getting overlooked
>> >> >> >> >>> and ignored.
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Desired Settlement
>> >> >> >> >>> My only settlement for this issue
>> would be to focus on fixing the
>> >> >> >> >>> issue I have with the software to the point where I can use >> 
>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> the
>> >> >> >> >>> products I have purchased
>> >> >> >> >>> without the iLok protection system getting in the way.
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Business' Initial Response
>> >> >> >> >>> First, I'd like to apologize to
>> Mr. ******* for the lack of response
>> >> >> >> >>> for several days after he sent us
>> the log files we requested. Up until
>> >> >> >> >>> that point,
>> >> >> >> >>> his support ticket had been
>> handled by our support team, and followup
>> >> >> >> >>> emails were going back and forth
>> between Mr. ******* and our team.
>> >> >> >> >>> Once we received
>> >> >> >> >>> the technical log files, his case
>> was assigned to our engineering
>> >> >> >> >>> staff. There was a
>> miscommunication on our end as to who would be
>> >> >> >> >>> contacting Mr. *******
>> >> >> >> >>> back.
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> I made sure that a response was
>> sent to Mr. ******* today through our
>> >> >> >> >>> support ticketing system. The log he sent was very helpful in
>> >> >> >> >>> identifying a couple
>> >> >> >> >>> of issues to which we have sent
>> followup instructions. I am monitoring
>> >> >> >> >>> his support case and will make sure that there are no delays >> 
>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> in
>> >> >> >> >>> completing his case.
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Consumer's Final Response
>> >> >> >> >>> I was finally directed to an
>> engineer within the company, and he was
>> >> >> >> >>> incredibly helpful in isolating
>> the cause of the problem and finding a
>> >> >> >> >>> fix for it.
>> >> >> >> >>> He was extremely responsive to my
>> information and allowed me to be
>> >> >> >> >>> part of the process for fixing the
>> problem in the software. I could
>> >> >> >> >>> not have been happier
>> >> >> >> >>> With the interaction with the
>> technical department, but I wish it had
>> >> >> >> >>> taken less time for me to be
>> referred to that department. My issue has
>> >> >> >> >>> been completely
>> >> >> >> >>> Resolved and I'm extremely
>> satisfied with the response once I was
>> >> >> >> >>> directed to the right place.† >>>
>> >> >> >> >>>   Guys This was taken from the BBB’s„¢s website.
>> .
>> >> >> .
>> >> >> >> >>> So every one who is affected by
>> the Ilok authorization process should
>> >> >> >> >>> file a complaint here…
>> >> >> >> >>> Sory for the long post…
>> >> >> >> >>> Time for action!!!!!!
>> >> >> >> >>>
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>> face
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>> >   :-) sometimes windows don't read that
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> med to rest all day with wonder and Chris were you able to complete the 
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