We are using the alvarion breezemax and the redline redmax at 3.65GHz (all 
802.16d).   We think both of these are great.  (We also tried Airspan, but 
did not come away impressed).  For the stats I mention below, the clients 
are spaced between 0.1miles and 15 miles (15 miles is of course with LOS). 
Many of these are business T1s and high end residential connections.  The 
highest download per AP we can get is 15mbps steady on a 7mhz channel and 
this can be up to about 10 miles or so.   VoIP works great across the board.

>From what I understand the clearwire WIMAX 2.5GHz 16e network being tested 
in now Portland has about 120 base stations spaced at about 1 per square 
mile and can deliver max speeds to a single client up to 15mbps (fixed) and 
6Mbps (mobile) as well using 10MHz channels.  We are putting a lot lower 
density (1 every 3-4 miles) going after the fixed market (outdoor CPE).

Even though WiMAX is pricey ($15k or so per AP) I cant say enough about how 
truly amazing we think it is for WAN applications.  WiFi is still top notch 
for LANs though and the combination of the two is powerful.
ty




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Wyble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:03 PM
Subject: [ptp-general] Re: Weekly Meeting, this Wednesday at Green Dragon


>
> Tyler van Houwelingen wrote:
>> This scheduling in the WiMAX MAC allows us to have 50-100 clients on a
>> single WiMAX AP with no fall off in bandwidth per client (up to the 
>> capacity
>> limit of course
>
> What kind of access point? What brand? What coverage range? What price
> point?
>>  wifi, we could only get 10-15 or so clients on an
>> AP before bandwidht falls of a cliff.
>
> What sort of AP? What kind of coverage? What price point? What kind of
> tuning?
>
> I have seen people get 75 to 100 users on a WRT54GL with careful tuning
> etc running
> e-mail / light browsing workload. So lots and lots of variables to
> consider. :)
>
>
>>   The only downside is really
>> latency.  With a few clients on WiFi latency is around 5-10ms but with 
>> WiMAX
>> it is always about 50ms given the scheduling, even with just one client
>> connecte.  At larger number of clients, latency stays the same, until you
>> approach >50 clients then it begins to creep up.
>>
>
> Interesting.
>
> I'm building a small mesh network to test various configurations and
> such out. I'll be posting results on my blog as I go through the process.
>
> A lot more testing is needed in terms of best configurations / practices
> for community wirleless networks built from commodity parts.
>
> Also there is 3.65Ghz stuff which is very interesting but hampered by
> exclusion zones. I have been leading the fight in gaining access to the
> zones for some time now.
>
> WiMAX is considered dead on arrival by many in the WISP community. :)
>
> -- 
> Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059
> http://charlesnw.blogspot.com
> CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project
>
>
> >
> 


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