Hi Vipul, Bill et al.,

Thanks for your efforts. I think the seed (global) ontology is a good start. I'd also suggest to include modeling at the neuronal level that allows study of neuronal properties that are involved in Parkinson Disease. For example, the following OWL ontology

<owl:Class rdf:ID="#Cerebellar_purkinje_cell">
<owl:equivalentClass>
<owl:intersectionOf >
<owl:Class rdf:id=“purkinje neuron” />
<owl:Restriction>
<owl:onProperty rdf:resource="#locatedInBrainRegion" />
<owl:allValuesFrom
rdf:resource="#Cerebellum" />
</owl:Restriction>
<owl:intersectionOf />
</owl:equivalentClass>
</owl:Class>

It captures the knowledge that there are purkinje cells located in the cerebellum region of the brain. The interesting thing is that NeuronDB and CCDB, for example, represent this knowledge differently. In NeuronDB, there is a concept called "CerebellarPurkinjeNeuron", while in CCDB it's broken down into the following triples: PurkinjeNeuron, locatedInBrainRegion, Cerebellum. The above OWL ontology (or bridging ontology) indicates how to use the equivalentClass construct to establish mapping between NeuronDB and CCDB. OWL is just one way to do it. There are also other ways to do the same thing.

Cheers,

-Kei

Kashyap, Vipul wrote:

For the time being, I have uploaded the JPEG and GIF versions of the Ontology in UML.

---Vipul

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*From:* William Bug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 05, 2006 12:01 AM
*To:* Kashyap, Vipul
*Cc:* public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org
*Subject:* Re: [BIONT] Teleconference on Tuesday, 5th September 2006

Many thanks, Vipul.

I think this is a nice, concrete start and will certainly provide a solid foundation for discussion as we move forward - as will the Design Issues page you've created.

If it's OK, I'd like to make a small request re: the UML file. I see MS has created an XMI export feature for Visio (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=3DD3F3BE-656D-4830-A868-D0044406F57D&displaylang=en <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=3DD3F3BE-656D-4830-A868-D0044406F57D&displaylang=en>). Would it be possible for you to export the UML from Visio in XMI format? This way I'll be able to use one of several open source modeling tools that use XMI as there persistence file format. I assume I'm not the only one on the list without a copy of Visio on hand. I expect there may be some associations that don't translate perfectly, but as it now stands, I'm not able to take advantage of the fruit's of your labor. As a side note, I often provide a PNG version when distributing models, just so others who either don't have the tools or the knowledge of how to use open source equivalents can at least view the model in a web browser.

Many thanks again. I think it will be immensely helpful to have made this concrete step forward. It also provides the BioRDF WG an opportunity to comment on how this ontology will mesh with the requirements they've been identifying for the Parkinsonian Syndrome-related data sources.

Cheers,

Bill

On Sep 4, 2006, at 10:43 PM, Kashyap, Vipul wrote:



BIONT Teleconference on Tuesday, 5^th September from 11:00am – 12:00pm US Eastern

Phone: +1 617 761 6200, conference 24668 ("BIONT")

IRC irc://irc.w3.org:6665/hcls

Browser-based IRC client: http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc

*Agenda:*

We will discuss the initial “seed ontology” for the Bench to Bedside Ontology

This is based on the use case specification available at:

http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/ParkinsonUseCase

We will focus on the Cellular and Molecular Biologist view.

The seed ontology is available at:

http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/OntologyTaskForce/SeedOntology

The seed ontology in the UML format (Visio File) is available at:

http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/OntologyTaskForce/SeedOntology?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=SeedOntologyUML.vsd <http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/OntologyTaskForce/SeedOntology?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=SeedOntologyUML.vsd>

A discussion of Design Choices and other issues is available at:

http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/OntologyTaskForce/DesignIssues

Cheers,

---Vipul

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