Well, stepping back a bit from the task at hand, when we looked back and 
attempted to understand why such strong pre existing demand existed for the WWW 
that led to wide adoption ("phases of e-commerce" '97 if memory serves), it was 
in part ironically the need for individuality and expression of same within an 
increasingly crowded world and social medium, to include global economic 
drivers, that provided sufficient reason to learn html and obtain URLs. 
Similarly for orgs, and we've all been trying to survive the data tsunami since.

Fast forward a decade- to expect wide adoption by organizations of universal 
standards in ontological languages, a balancing act between needs of 
universality with the need for orgs to differentiate in order to survive. 

If there is one thing we've learned in knowledge systems (and org reform work) 
relative to adoption and participation (beyond the minority), one needs to 
align (or realign) interests between the individual, the org, and society. 
Standardization being primarily of the latter, it must consider interests of 
the other two and v/v. I realize the W3C and others do, and that the balance is 
always challenging given the practical need for consensus building, however I 
think it's prudent to error on the side of empowering the org and individual to 
provide granularity, and to maintain adaptability as much as possible. 
Particularly given the evolutionary history of descriptive languages and levels 
of adoption, which I consider to be sufficiently regrettable not to have 
engaged. I rather agree with David's statement below- a core philosophy of our 
product dev efforts, which we aim to do by restricting the choices of intent. 
But that's not necessarily a standards issue, provided that the standard 
doesn't prevent same. BTW I would also agree with those who suggest that the 
motivation in LS is perhaps the essential energy required to achieve 
equilibrium, even with some dis... - Mark


> From: Alan Ruttenberg
> . . .
> 2) I think that URIs should function first as unique identifiers, and
> only if possible, as elements of user interface. . . . .

I basically agree with this, but I think it is possible to strike
balance, since humans *do* still need to look at these URIs sometimes
(for debugging for example).  If a URI contains at least a small human
readable hint of its intent, that can be very helpful.  Of course, any
human readable part should be chosen carefully so as to age well.

David Booth, Ph.D.
HP Software






  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Alan Ruttenberg 
  To: Mark Montgomery 
  Cc: Kei Cheung ; Huajun Chen @ Zhejiang University ; Jonathan Rees ; chris 
mungall ; public-semweb-lifesci hcls ; Suzanna Lewis ; Judith Blake ; Barry 
Smith ; John Barkley 
  Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 11:47 AM
  Subject: Re: adding pubmed ids to BAMS


  On Apr 20, 2007, at 1:13 PM, Mark Montgomery wrote:


    I can see the potential for harm in attempting to zoom in too far on 
granularity in standardization efforts (understanding the appeal) and would 
therefore vote for prudent equilibrium between adaptability and fixed. A bit 
messier perhaps to purposely engineer on the side of caution, but so too are 
most institutions that experience wide adoption coming to my mind. .02- MM



  This sounds like useful advise, but I wonder if you could expand this a bit 
so I can better understand what you are thinking.


  Thanks,
  Alan

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