Hi All,

I caught this quote from the Clinical Observation Interoperability Telcon that seems to be inaccurate:

"Clinical research data and clinical care data from EMRs have different information models and different terminological standards. CDISC's Study Data Tabulation Model (SDTM), an emerging standard for regulatory reporting of clinical research data, defines the study variables for a given clinical trial in terms of domains and observations. Although there are no widely used standards in the modeling of clinical information in EMRs, there is a large body of work in the Healthcare/Clinical Practice arena where detailed clinical models (DCM) have been developed"

To correct the mis-statement: The HL7 Observation standards for EMR's have been in use since the 1990's in both HL7 2.x standards and the new HL7 RIM-based standards found in CDA documents and other RIM-based standards. These RIM-based standards are now chosen by national government bodies including US (ONC contracts), Canada (Infoway), Australia (NEHTA), and the UK (NHS). Therefore, there are widely used standards for observations in EMR design.

Hope the work of the Clinical Observation Interoperability group makes sure that an effort is made to harmonize clinical trial observation standards with both of these older, widely-used HL7 standards for patient care....Dan

Kashyap, Vipul wrote:

Hi, Thanks to Jyoti for typing up today's minutes. They are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2007/11/20-hcls-minutes.html
Also, for those who haven't done so, please enroll in the Semantic Web for HCLS mailing list below:
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The irc address is irc.w3.org:6665 and the channel is #hcls.
Let me know if any of you have questions, etc. Thanks and Regards, ---Vipul

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    Subject: [COI] Clinical Observations Interoperability Telcon
    November 20, Tuesday 11:00am - 12:00pm US EST

Clinical Observations Interoperability Telcon http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability Thanks to all of you who participated in the COI session of the
    F2F. It was a great meeting, with a lot of enthusiasm
    and great feedback and insights. Some of us met at AMIA after this
    and there appears to be a lot of momentum
    Hopefully, all of us have had the opportunity of digesting the
    feedback and lessons. Would like to propose the next telcon
    with the following agenda (Please let me know if you would like to
    add anything else to this).

    The various presentations made at the COI session are available at:

    
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability/November2007F2FAgenda.html

    Slides enumerating the key discussion points of the brainstorming
    session are available at:

    
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability/November2007F2FAgenda.html?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=brainstorming.ppt
    
<http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability/November2007F2FAgenda.html?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=brainstorming.ppt>

    Date and Time:

November 20, Tuesday 11:00am - 12:00pm US EST
    Telcon Details:

    Phone

        

    +1 617 761 6200, conference 24668 ("BIONT")

    IRC

        

    irc://irc.w3.org:6665/hcls

    Browser-based IRC client

        

    http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc

    Agenda

      1.
          Administrivia
             *
                Everyone - please sign up for the mailing list (it's free)
             *
                Invited Expert Status - Please send your information
                to Eric P. (Eric P to take lead)
             *
                Permissions to edit Functional Requirements Document -
                Invitations to Google Spreadsheets
      2.
          Finish Functional Requirements
             *
                Fill up information related to Detailed Clinical
                Models - Tom Oniki et. al.
             *
                Fill up information related to SDTM - Kerstin, Bo, Rachel
      3.
          Identify Data Requirements - George Allen
      4.
          Identify Patient Data Sets - George Allen, Tom Oniki, Vipul
          Kashyap, Jyotishman Pathak, Rachel Richesson
      5.
          Finalize Resource Commitments from various people
      6.
          Finalize Detailed Project Plan and review for scope and
          feedback -- Goal to have a POC in 6-9 months.
      7.
          Brainstorm Application Architecture and detailed Technical Tasks

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