I don't know what he's talking bout John, maybe Karl can shed some light on what his rant. Karl sent him a check that my bank sent directly to the corporation (and in the name of the corporation) a couple of months ago. Karl sent it to him about a month ago to open the account and he claimed he never received the packet with all of the documents that Karl mailed to him.

When he claimed he didn't receive the check Karl suggested that he open the account anyway and then the TLDA could either reimburse him or he could open it *dry*, w/30 days to make the inital deposits of funds. He didn't do either one, and if he had opened the account, he could have paid himself back I suppose.

I understand he's also been sitting on two or three membership applications for a few months now too. Fortunately, we don't have to rely upon him for that anymore as the website takes care of the initial verifications automatically, and then the membership committee members all are able to verify the applicants phone and postal adresses, TLD Servers, existing content, etc.

John Palmer wrote:
Just stop this complaining. The bank account needed opening, it is now open. If the TLDA owes you $60 for something, can someone pay this? Karl, Bradley - what is this about? If we owe him $60, we
should pay him. If not, not.

In any event, this kind of stuff detracts from our work.

John
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Scott" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Public] [Members] [TLDA Public] Why did Roeland Meyer resign as a director of the TLDA? INSIDE SCOOP


How about, since the TLDA owes me 60 dollars, the TLDA pay me.
Until then.. how you leave your comments to yourself.

You are ill-formed, the Board authorized me to open the account, and Braldey opened the account on his own.


David

John Palmer wrote:
As a member, its your duty to shut up and stop stirring up trouble. The bank account is open and we are making progress towards the goals of this organzation. Bradley did what he was supposed to do and
it was neccessary.

THE BANK ACCOUNT IS OPEN. THE BOARD AUTHORIZED IT. GET OVER IT AND BE
QUIET.

Stop nit picking and worring about non-sense.
The more you whine and complain, the more foolish we look. Bradley, myself and others have worked hard on
real matters and have made progress.

I would hope that you would have seen this example and would have realized that this childist nit-picking
is DAMAGING to this organization.

Now please SHUT UP and leave the rest of us alone - we are doing real work and making progress. Joe's posting to this list have been moderated and I propose that anyone else that hinders our progress be moderated as well.

It has been such a pleasure to have a quiet space in which to get work done in this last month without the childish distractions. I consider it essential to continue that environment and would propose any
means neccessary to do so.

If you don't like this organization, might I suggest that you resign.

John
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Scott" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Members] [Public] [TLDA Public] Why did Roeland Meyer resign as a director of the TLDA? INSIDE SCOOP



I am a little concerned about the accusations here.
As far as calling any one a liar, then let's start.
Here's some questions that I have on behalf of the members of the TLDA.

1. Where are the records to the Bank Account that was opened?
2. Under what authority did Bradley have to open an account?
3. Was there a Board meeting in which 2 board members where not notified?

These question can be answered with documentation. Since I am currently the Secretary, I can state I never received any documentation pertaining to any of these items.

As a member, I have paid 60 dollars, for the filling, of the Legal paper work, if there is a bank account, and it has money in this account to start paying people back, then why is not being done.

On top of which, why would ANY member pay money for a fee, when the financial area of this organization has never to date supplied any paper work.

As secretary, I believe it is the duties of members to demand documentation of all actions by all executives.

As far as the email below, it is every right of every member to show concerns about speculation, since this is a 'group' run organization, and that is based of the members, NO executive should ever call any member a liar, (otherwise) we get back into the "Slander" issue again.

Bradley, I employ you to refrain from such comments.

As far as the communica below, I will at some point contact Roeland Meyer personally to get the full reason as to his resignation, this is the only fair and sure-fire method of understanding what is really going on there.

As far as stating anyone is missing in facts... The fact is that Bradley opened a bank account without the Board turnover of a resolution, in where he made an executive decision, OUT of place, and without authorization, I recommend that anyone wanted to donate at this time, since the Bank account, was not opened by the secretary, then it stands that it is not TLDA authorized bank account, and DO NOT SEND YOUR MONEY.

As far as a Board meeting without 2 members, since I would be one of those members, I can not state wither the meeting every happened, as I was not notified, HOWEVER if Roeland was contacted, after he was known to be inactive as a Board member then if is safe to say that something per fraud is going on... And I would demand the notes, minutes, and audio of that meeting. I speculate that 'email' list is NOT a reason to give for not communicating with the other 2 Board members, since Roeland Meyer's had to be called, via a phone or skype.

There are no excuses for this behavior anymore, YOU as a member, even you as a Public reading, should start demanding answer. I as the official secretary, demands answer.



David Scott


Bradley D. Thornton wrote:
Hello Hugh,

You should check your facts before cross-posting from moderated liars - that puts you in the same boat as them. You can judge a man by his pall-bearers, y'know ;)

What you have posted is not only a lie, but I think you will understand when I say you have been remiss in your responsibility to check your facts.

Roeland's departure had absolutely nothing to do with Joe, and he again confirmed this less than an hour ago. Sure, Joe making noise because that is all he can do now that he, the moderator, has been moderated at the GA; he, the troublemaker has been moderated or banned from participation from virtually every working list that is significant; and he the liar has corralled a cadre of naive, well meaning people who are wholly mis-informed and as a result, making an ass out of themselves.

You know that cross-posting is bad netiquette Hugh. And providing an avenue for a moderated individual the forum to post where they could not otherwise is obviously...., what would you call it Hugh?

In the future, please check your facts, or you might end up with egg all over your face again - Joe has made a fool out of you in public.

Hugh Dierker wrote:
Truly unremarkable

--- On *Mon, 6/15/09, Joe Baptista /<[email protected]>/* wrote:


    From: Joe Baptista <[email protected]>
Subject: [TLDA Public] Why did Roeland Meyer resign as a director
    of the TLDA? INSIDE SCOOP
    To: [email protected]
    Cc: [email protected], [email protected]
    Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 8:21 AM


    Roeland Meyer resigned as a director of the TLDA today.  The
reasons behind this move has nothing to do with book publishing. It has everything to do with common sense. I asked Roeland Meyer
    to tender his resignation a few days ago.  And I thank him for
    doing so.

    Roeland has not participated in a board meeting for years.  So
    it's simple common sense to vacate the position.  He's hung on
    hopping the TLDA drama queens in charge of the show would get
their act together and do some serious work. And he is I think
    disappointed.   He was recently asked to participate in a board
    meeting held by Bradley Thornton and Karl Peters that passed a
    resolution.  Directors David Scott and Peter Dambier were not
    invited to this teleconference meeting.
    Roeland was not made aware that the resolution by the board to
    establish banking facilities had designated Mr. Scott as the
officer in charge - not Bradley Thornton. He was not made aware
    of Mr. Scott's objections to the motion on membership dues.

    I personally feel Bradley Thornton and Karl Peters should be
    ashamed of calling a board meeting with an inactive director for
    the sole purpose of tricking him into passing resolutions and
    faling to provide notice of the meeting to all directors.  This
    smells of collusion to a fraud.

    In any case Roeland is gone.  He is a director with vision.  I
    think he will come back once we kick the drama queens out of the
    TLDA and start acting and delivering like the profession
    association we claim to be and not the circus of clowns we now
    have pretending to be in charge.

I would say what we have here in this resignation is another vote
    of non confidence.

    cheers
    joe baptista

    p.s. Roeland's resignation letter follows.


    -------- Original Message --------
    From:   Roeland Meyer <[email protected]>
    To:     <[email protected]
<http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>
    Date:   Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:13:24 +0200
    Subject:        [Board] My board seat on the TLDA
    Sender:         [email protected]
<http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>



Recent events have made it clear to me that I need to resign my TLDA membership and curtail my activities in that area. Therefore, I am resigning my Board seat such that the TLDA can use it to have someone
    that has more time for the activity.



    I thank you all for letting me serve. I regret that I cannot do
    more and
    it is better that I allow someone else who does have the time
    available
    to occupy my seat and membership.



    ---

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