>j...@conference.jabber.org

Hmm, reachable via meebo? Lame, I know... I don't have a native XMPP client.
I'm only into XMPP for it's MQ resemblance :-)


On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Liam <pub...@networkimprov.net> wrote:

> > coming online and going offline quite frequently, so they are not always
> receiving notifications
>
> Well even if not hopping on/off, I don't want them to miss messages, and
> it's easy to do that with a browser-based client.
>
> > Have you looked at XEP-0184?
>
> I've glanced at Stream Mgmt and AMP. I'm pretty interested in solutions
> that are implemented, since my first priority is to ship an app! Pubsub is
> implemented, so if it got a reliable delivery feature, there's a decent
> chance it'd reach code. So I'm here to lobby for that :-)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Liam <pub...@networkimprov.net> wrote:
>
>> I didn't top-post, I replied to my original note. I'm only subscribed to
>> digests.
>>
>> IQ notifications are spec'd to only work for present subscribers, which
>> doesn't help me. It'd be great if they would work for offline subscribers.
>>
>> As for getting involved, how else would I begin to do that but by asking
>> questions? Besides, I just suggested the outlines of a solution. (Which
>> might well be redundant with written XEPs.)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Liam <pub...@networkimprov.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Seems to me that a reliability extension can be quite simple... It needs
>>> an ack mechanism, and a configurable retry/fail policy on the server. It's
>>> sorta surprising the core protocols lack this, IMO...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Liam <pub...@networkimprov.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This blog post cogently positions XMPP against MQ systems
>>>>   https://stpeter.im/index.php/2007/12/07/amqp-and-xmpp/
>>>>
>>>> But now two years later, the pubsub spec makes no mention of reliable
>>>> delivery to offline subscribers, and even ejabberd doesn't implement AMP,
>>>> which could provide that. (Code's written, but integration appears to have
>>>> been deferred indefinitely.)
>>>>
>>>> It is astonishingly easy to miss messages with a browser-based client.
>>>> Um, have I chosen the wrong messaging technology for my app?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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