1) Tell me which cards are identified by the alsamixer and which cards are identified by pa(pulseaudio). 2) Can you make sound with your speakers with pa and the cards that it does identify?

Juan A Fuentes Bermudez wrote:

I'll try to help...
thank


    1) You have 4 sound cards in one computer... yes?
    yes

    2) the alsamixer can identify all 4 cards.
    yes

    3) The padevchooser identifies 2 cards
    yes

    4) You want pulseaudio to identify all 4 cards
    yes,

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    If this sounds correct, I would start by getting hardware
information about your cards. ok, cards:
    1. esi waveterminal 192m, ice1724
    2. terratek ewx24/96, ice1712
    3 hdmi ati, (integrated in my vga card)
    4. soundmax 1988b, ad198x
Are you familiar with CLI (command line interface)... ie how to
    use a shell in linux?  or do you use the GUI (Grahpical User
Interface) only? yes, i am use command line and gui,
    I'm asking this so I can explain better.
    very tahnk you for your interest


    Juan A Fuentes Bermudez wrote:
    hi, sorry for my english
i have 4 sound card in the alsamixer i can choice the 4 card to change parameters but when in the padevchooser i an click in te default sink only
    apears 2 card
i use ubuntu hardy, with the default default.pa with hall_detect
    and detect module active
how can list exact name of alsa devices to add module_alsa whit
    the correspond name of my 4 devices manually?
sorry bye
        ----- Original Message -----
        *From:* Richard Geddes <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        *To:* General PulseAudio Discussion
        <mailto:pulseaudio-discuss@mail.0pointer.de>
        *Sent:* Monday, June 02, 2008 3:34 PM
        *Subject:* Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Help in setting up PA...
        SOLVED

        Hi,

        I'm back again.  I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.04 which uses PA as
        the default sound server and new hardware(AMD Athlon X2)  The
        PA server is version 0.9.10.  My /etc/default.pa looks like this:

        .nofail
        load-sample-lazy pulse-hotplug /usr/share/sounds/startup3.wav
        .fail
        load-module module-alsa-sink sink_name=intel_hda_out device=hw:0
        load-module module-alsa-source source_name=intel_hda_in
        device=hw:0
        load-module module-alsa-sink sink_name=delta_out device=hw:1
        channels=10
        channel_map=left,right,aux0,aux1,aux2,aux3,aux4,aux5,aux6,aux7
        load-module module-alsa-source source_name=delta_in
        device=hw:1 channels=12
        channel_map=left,right,aux0,aux1,aux2,aux3,aux4,aux5,aux6,aux7,aux8,aux9
        set-default-sink delta_out
        set-default-source delta_in
        .ifexists module-esound-protocol-unix.so
        load-module module-esound-protocol-unix
        .endif
        load-module module-native-protocol-unix
        load-module module-volume-restore
        load-module module-default-device-restore
        load-module module-rescue-streams
        load-module module-suspend-on-idle
        .ifexists module-gconf.so
        .nofail
        load-module module-gconf
        .fail
        .endif
        .ifexists module-x11-publish.so
        .nofail
        load-module module-x11-publish
        .fail
        .endif

        To get feedback from the PA server I used paman (pulseaudio
        sound manager in ubuntu) and it said that the intel_hda_out
        device is the default sink.  I tried to force the default
        sink to be delta_out with pacmd, but that stopped the PA
        server... I didn't realize that when I exit paman, it shuts
        the pa server down.  I was a little confused by that...
        expecting the server to stay alive.

        I noticed that I could "play-sample" to the delta_out and it
        sounded fine.  It looked like I can get my Delta 66 card and
PA to work but only in that "play-sample" mode.
        I did not realize that I had the volume-restore enabled, and
        it had quite a few settings from the past that were all
        related to intel_hda_out... also my ~/.pulse/default-sink
        file was also set to intel_hda_out... anyway even though the
        global config file(/etc/pulse/default.pa) set the default
        sink to delta_out, there are local config files in ~/.pulse/
        that can also modify the defaults.  It's probably in the
        literature somewhere, and it makes sense for clients that are
        sharing a server.

        Anyway, I after changing *all* (local and global) the config
        files, the system works... and pretty well.  Hope this helps
        someone with their M-Audio Delta setup.

        R

        Tanu Kaskinen wrote:
        On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 03:02:40PM -0500, Richard Geddes wrote:
You are correct... latest release Ubuntu 7.10 comes with PA 0.9.6. I'll look into getting the latest version of PA.

        My goal was to use PA as a replacement for esound server...  I'd like to
        be able to record/mix different sound sources (midi, analog, sound from
        files (mp3, wav, ogg, etc)) and be able to create different file
        formats, including sound delivered in flash (I'm not a fan of flash as
        it consumes alot of cpu time, but it is in demand).  I played with jackd
        for a while and was impressed with it's technical capabilities, but
        unfortunately, I haven't found a way to play flash sound through
        jackd... that is, flash in firefox.  I found a how-to in the Ubuntu
        forum that seemed to patch together a solution the involved PA:

        http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=548178

        If you want to record midi and do other "pro-audio" stuff,
        then jack is the way to go. If you also want to do "desktop"
        stuff (like have every media player just work), then the
        best solution in my experience is to run pulseaudio on top
        of jack (like instructed in that link).

        A summary of what you'll have to do at minimum:
        - Get pulseaudio version >= 0.9.7
        - Remove device loading from /etc/pulse/default.pa and add
          the jack modules instead
        - Edit /etc/security/limits.conf as instructed in the link
        - Edit /etc/pulse/daemon.conf to enable realtime scheduling
        - Run jackd with -R parameter (i.e. in realtime mode)
        - Other stuff that I have forgot ;)

        If you are going to record midi, that probably means that
        you have some midi instrument that you want to be able to
        play live. That requires quite low latency. That's
        completely possible to achieve. Unfortunately it may require
        extensive tuning (mostly kernel, but you may need to tweak
        irq priorities as well). Vanilla kernels are AFAIK getting
        better and better regarding latency, so first try with your
        current kernel. The actual latency is controlled by jackd
        parameters -n and -p (read man jackd). If your kernel isn't
        able to provide low enough latency, you'll get drop-outs and
        xruns (the former being the audible consequence of the
        latter).

        If you have problems with setting pulseaudio to work in
        combination with jack, or anything else pulseaudio related,
        then feel free to ask further questions.

        If it turns out that your system needs latency-tuning, here
        are a few kernel options you could try without compiling an
        -rt patched kernel:
        CONFIG_NO_HZ=y
        CONFIG_HZ_1000=y
        CONFIG_HZ=1000
        CONFIG_HIGH_RES_TIMERS=y (AFAIK this requires a rather recent kernel)

        There may be others that I'm not aware of. These are
        beneficial to pulseaudio regardless of what kind of setup
        you need (jack or not).

        If you end up needing a patched kernel, here's the wiki of
        the patchset: http://rt.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page

        If you have further questions about latency stuff, I
        recommend searching the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list
        archives, and if that doesn't help, then send questions
        there. That's a very good list to subscribe to anyway, if
        you're going to do any audio work on Linux.

        And then a note on flash. Flash requires a thing called
        libflashsupport due to Adobe's plugin's bugginess. AFAIK it
        will be packaged eventually, but currently you have to
        compile it yourself. The link you gave refers to an outdated
        version of the "thing". More recent information is available
        at http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#FlashPlayer9.
        In short: get the one that's hosted at git.0pointer.de, not
        the revolutionlinux one.

        An alternative to the flash plugin is http://keepvid.com,
        which allows you to download the .flv files in Youtube and
        several other supported services. Then just play the file on
        your favourite media player. Keepvid.com is enough for me,
        but YMMV. Note the white button saying "Drag this button..."
        etc. It talks about a "links toolbar" but bookmarking the
        script does the same thing.

        Question:   PA, esound, jackd, etc.. are all called sound servers,
        implying that you can replace one with another... like apache vs iis....

        I'd say that being a sound server implies only that the
        server is somehow capable of software mixing.

        is the main difference that they use different client/server
        communication protocols?

        The main difference of pulseaudio and jack is their
        different designs and goals. Maybe the communication
        protocols somehow reflect that, I don't know. Esound's
        distinctive feature is being dead, I don't know much else
        about that thing.

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