On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:24 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <m...@egenix.com> wrote:
> Paul Boddie wrote: > > On Monday 19 December 2011 23:41:14 Martin v. Löwis wrote: > >>> That's not a problem, I can match both on the domain and on the prefix > >>> -- and I can treat no prefix as yet another match for the prefix. > >>> So, wiki.python.org would lead to the python wiki, wiki.jython.org to > >>> the jython wiki, etc. plus there would be redirects from > >>> wiki.python.org/moin/* and wiki.python.org/jython/*. > >> > >> I think what MAL is saying is that you cannot have wiki.python.org/psf > >> point to one wiki, and wiki.python.org/ point to another one. If you > >> could, it would be ambiguous if wiki.python.org/psf/BoardAgenda > >> is a page in the PSF wiki, or in the Python Wiki. > > > > I don't remember the farmconfig limitations, but I'm pretty sure you > could get > > Apache to handle this and point /psf to a specific Wiki instance before > any > > other instance is offered a chance to handle it. > > > >> I'm not sure whether URL stability has been discussed yet in this > >> thread: it's absolutely necessary that the existing URLs continue > >> to work "forever", since people are linking to them. Making them > >> redirect would be an option if implementable. > > > > I'm also pretty sure that Anatoly mentioned URL stability. I think the > > simplification would be a reasonable enhancement. > > Why not reverse this and redirect from the wiki.python.org/PageName > to wiki.python.org/moin/PageName for all page names that don't > start with (moin/|psf/|jython/) ? > To me this proposal is like - 'Why have short URLs by default if we can have a long ones?' And I confirm that existing URLs will work "forever" and will redirect to new shorter default page names. That way you get your shortened URLs, but don't have to change the > way MoinMoin is configured or play with domain names and new > Apache virtual server setups. If I was a lazy admin, I'd love this suggestion, but can't agree as a user. If Apache is bothersome to maintain - we can change it to Nginx to make the application more portable. If you're concerned about positive /moin/ advertisement effect, then from a perspective of a Python web developer/admin, the /moin/ prefix looks exactly like an anti-ad. "Why the heck is this prefix doing here if there is already a wiki.* domain namespace?" "Does MoinMoin support domain names mapping?" "Is it a software that is so hard to customize?" So, we remove MoinMoin anti-ad, make wiki URLs simple for users and preserve existing links from breaking. It is a fantastic deal for the small cost of Apache reconfiguration. If you like the pitch, just say "O key" and we'll close it. =) -- anatoly t.
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