On 6/26/07, Jonas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 26 jun, 01:38, David Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Jonas wrote:
> >
> > > I comment you the infrastructure that I would use in case we could
> > > collaborate:
> > > * License: GNU GPL-2
> >
> > Could you consider the LGPL or the MIT license? I believe a good blog
> > application for Pylons would probably spread in a way that follows the
> > logic described in the essay about why you might want to use the LGPL.
> I'm sorry but the license will be GNU GPL. You can read about this
> decision in this thread: 
> http://groups.google.com/group/blogtor/browse_thread/thread/f7910c0f83d099d6

The link is dead.  Is the info available somewhere else?  I found the
new mailing list (http://groups.google.com/group/aroundword-discuss/)
and site (http://www.aroundword.org/) but nothing about the license.

I realize this won't change your mind, but going with the GPL is
unfortunate.  It'll just mean somebody will have to write a non-GPL
version of the same thing later, which is reinventing the wheel and
wasting resoures.  The GPL is so long and complicated it ends up
creating a hassle even for those who are trying to do the right thing.
 For instance, the US government can't release anything under
copyright or with a copyright license; it has to release under public
domain.  This contradicts the GPL which says that anything
incorporating a GPL component must be released under the GPL.  The FSF
has two FAQ questions that half cover this but not really:
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLUSGov

But a Pylons program that uses a GPL library is not really "making
improvements to a GPL program", it's just using it.  You're getting
the friggin' source anyway so what's the problem?!!  But this
ambiguity is enough to scare some government lawyers and developers
away and say "just avoid GPL software in anything you release".  This
causes a hassle if there is no adequate non-GPL library, so the net
result is less quality source code available to the public rather than
more. The idea of hiring a contractor to write software just to assume
copyright and reassign it to the government is absurd: it's a kludge
with a capital K.

Looking back, I'm glad Python and 99% of its libraries are not GPL.
Otherwise I may be using PHP or Java (shudder).  The MIT license is
short and straightforward: it's easy to tell whether your intended use
is compliant.  The GPL is five pages and requires a lawyer to
scrutinize the words and guess whether a certain use is covered.  And
if somebody embeds Python or my library in a proprietary program, so
what?  It doesn't prevent me from using it.  It hasn't prevented many
excellent open-source Python libraries or applications from being
written.  The GPL talks about proprietary users freeloading off
open-source non-GPL software.  What about GPL users freeloading off
open-source non-GPL software, making a library that can't be used
everywhere the original (Pylons) is?  Why is that OK?  Especially when
the library purports to fill one of the main holes in the Pylons
applications suite?

-- 
Mike Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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