On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 05:51:00AM -0800, Mike Orr wrote: > On Jan 11, 2008 4:48 AM, Lawrence Oluyede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What about > > http://codespeak.net/lxml/dev/lxmlhtml.html#creating-html-with-the-e-factory > > ? > > > > About the JavaScript thing: is it savvy to havea "one for all" > > dependency with one of the gazillion libraries out there? > > That's an issue. But Pylons should have good Javascript support out > of the box. The question is how to accomplish this. If there were > one obviously best Javascript library, we'd use that, but each one > seems to have different advantages. > > The only disadvantage of ExtJS I've heard is that it's so big, not > that it's missing anything. So that's an advattage. Does it have > good modularity; i.e., is it possible to load just the parts you use?
Ben suggested trying ExtJS to me because the basic functionality of ExtJS is close to that of jQuery. So I tried it and am pretty impressed indeed. The raw powers of ExtJS are definitely the complex widgets. I have never before seen an inline-editable grid with server-side sorting and an AJAJ (AJAX with JSON instead of XML) paginator. I see two problems though: - ExtJS (all of it) is 500 KB large. At least Firefox, Konqueror and Opera load that pretty fast. But Firebug (a debugger addon for Firefox) has a lot of trouble with that and only a hacked version runs half decently. - You will write your application in 90% Javascript and 10% Pylons. ExtJS just uses a backend like Pylons to exchange JSON information for typical CRUD operations. You can't just use formencode with htmlfill to validate your forms because you do not send HTML to the browser. So you have to do some other kind of validation and add Javascript for error handling. Don't get me started on that ugly "for" loops in Javascript. I hoped I'd never again have to see them since I dumped C. So, yes, ExtJS is mighty but for most applications it's too 2.0-ish. ExtJS applications don't degrade at all. Although their developers made great efforts in making the CSS and HTML good enough to work in all browsers I could try (Firefox 2, Konqueror, Opera 9, IE 7) it's pure bloat. Sure it's functional and I don't want to re-invent all those wheels. But take a look at the default CSS: ~850 classes. And a normal grid is a ten-level-deep monster of DIVs and TABLEs. Not sure I'll finish my current project with ExtJS instead of jQuery. </my 2¢> Christoph -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.workaround.org JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg key: 79CC6586 fingerprint: 9B26F48E6F2B0A3F7E33E6B7095E77C579CC6586 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pylons-discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
