On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Ben Bangert <[email protected]> wrote: > On Apr 8, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Noah Gift wrote: > >> I do like my analogy on Python packaging though, not sure if I have >> shared it here or not. What would you do if, in a fictional scenario, >> someone kidnapped your family, and said, " >> In 24 hours, we are going to install your software, either on Mac, >> Linux, or Windows. If it works, will release your family." Would you >> do anything different then what you are doing now. Or are you >> confident that it is as reliable as possible and that it will install >> 99.999999999999% of the time on any system? > > Wow, I think you're getting a little too worked up over this.
I hope it doesn't come across that way :) I am on your side. I do want this to work though :) > > Does it suck when an install fails? You betcha. > > Is any installer system flawless? Nope. > > Of these installers: > - Ruby gems > - Python egg's > - RPM's > - Debian packages > - FreeBSD Ports/packages > > Every single one of them has failed me in the past when installing at some > point. Not a single one has touched the 99% figure you speak of, even though > some of the ones in that list have had *many* full-time software developers > spend considerably more effort on them than the Python egg installing stuff > has had. > > Now, I think installing has gotten significantly better for Pylons. If you > look back to after the 0.9.6 release, there was a decent amount of people > reporting install issues. When 0.9.7 was released, there was a tiny fraction > of the install breakage from the past. We've made a hell of a lot of > progress, and none of us have full-time jobs to working on this software > (unlike some of the people working on the debian/RPM installers). > > Noah, you work at Weta, thats a big (and rather profitable) company that > uses Python. Maybe you could get some of them to sic some full-time > programmers on making the system as flawless as you speak of for the good of > all python packages? :) I do agree, this is something that companies that use open source software should do. I am also willing to help present it to management. > > Cheers, > Ben -- Cheers, Noah --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pylons-discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
