Great -- another high traffic day on the PyMOL list! I do hope everyone is aware that you can get the PyMOL list batched into a *single* daily message. That way you can still keep up with PyMOL informati without being flooded. Here's how
Surf to http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pymol-users , enter your email address, and click select "Edit Options", then set digest mode to "on", enter password and submit. Onto the topic at hand: MacOSX 3 button mice. Based on Evan's success (below), it sounds to me like the problem has to do with third-party mouse driver software suppressing the normal middle-button mouse event. OSX barely supports the middle button, so it isn't surprising that third parties don't even bother. Deactivation of mouse software is complicated by the fact that with PyMOL, the Mac OSX icon you launch is not the one which ends up being active (the reasons for this are important but technical...). Thus, my advice would be (1) avoid programmable mouse driver software althougher (just don't install it), or failing that (2) try deactivating the software for all of the PyMOL application icons in the PyMOL folder (as well as in the "Darwin" sub-folder). Cheers, Warren -----Original Message----- From: J. Evan Sadler [mailto:esad...@im.wustl.edu] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:27 AM To: DeLano, Warren Subject: Re: [PyMOL] MacOSX and Three button mice. Warren, Great suggestion to try vanilla. I was programming the mouse from within System Preferences, choosing the Microsoft IntelliPoint application under "Other". Doing the same, but checking "Disable IntelliPoint features..." specifically for application "PyMOL", enabled all L,M,R mouse functions as expected under PyMOL. This setting allows the mouse to use the OS10 mouse software instead of IntelliPoint. The key points seem to be: 1. Choose the correct PyMOL application icon to define the application within the IntelliPoint application. 2. Disable Intellipoint features for PyMOL. Alternatively, I suppose one could simply not install the extra mouse software. Evan From: "DeLano, Warren" <war...@sunesis.com> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 08:07:29 -0700 To: "J. Evan Sadler" <esad...@im.wustl.edu> Subject: RE: [PyMOL] MacOSX and Three button mice. Evan, Thanks for your detailed response! Two more questions for you specifically: 1. Are there any other programs you have which do regonize the middle button as such? 2. Have you tried a plain-old-vanilla intellimouse without any programmability? I haven't installed additional software to get my mouse to work, and I'm wondering if somehow the extra software is getting the way. By the way, how are you programming the mouse? Cheers, Warren -----Original Message----- From: J. Evan Sadler [mailto:esad...@im.wustl.edu] Sent: Wed 10/16/2002 7:56 AM To: DeLano, Warren; Andy Calder Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [PyMOL] MacOSX and Three button mice. I am using the 0.84 version, launching by clicking an alias of the 10.2 application icon in the dock. Pymol does appear in the menu bar, and I have both GUI (PyMOL) and viewer (PyMOL Viewer) windows. The mouse is a 5 button (counting the wheel button) Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 USB mouse, with current intellipoint software for OS10. I have discovered the following: 1. Program specific settings chosen for PyMol 10.2 are ignored - Global settings trump. 2. Program specific settings chosen instead for PyMOL (NOT the application icons designated by 10.1 or 10.2) are recognized. 3. Programming the wheel button as "click" or "secondary click" correctly reproduces the behavior of the left or right buttons, respectively. 4. Programming the wheel button as "control+click" or "control+secondary click" etc works as expected for all combinations in the viewer window that apply to L or R buttons. 5. Nothing I have tried will convince the wheel button to behave as a middle button. For example, command+/-option+click or secondary click are ignored; behavior is same as click or secondary click. Evan Sadler > From: "Warren L. DeLano" <war...@sunesis.com> > Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 07:16:37 -0700 (PDT) > To: Andy Calder <afcal...@liverpool.ac.uk> > Cc: <pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > Hmm... I've been using a 3-button Microsoft USB Intellimouse with PyMOL > just fine, and the middle mouse button is fully functional under 10.2.1. > I didn't need to do any kind of configuration, it just worked. Thus, I > am flummoxed as to why it doesn't work for you as well! > > 1. Are you using the latest beta version (0.84)? > 2. How are you launching PyMOL? > 3. Does 'PyMOL' appear in the menu bar? > 4. Does an external GUI appear? > > (The last 2 questions are to insure that PyMOL is getting properly > initialized). > > Since I can't reproduce the problem, it's going to be tough for me to > solve it. > > Does anyone else have an idea what might be causing this problem? > > How widespread is the lack of middle-button function on a Mac? > > Cheers, > Warren >
