On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:29, Barry Warsaw <ba...@python.org> wrote:
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> On Jan 27, 2009, at 2:05 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
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>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Raymond Hettinger <pyt...@rcn.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> With the extensive changes in the works, Python 3.0.1 is shaping-up to be
>>> a
>>> complete rerelease of 3.0 with API changes and major usability fixes.  It
>>> will fully supplant the original 3.0 release which was hobbled by poor IO
>>> performance.
>>>
>>> I propose to make the new release more attractive by backporting several
>>> module improvements already in 3.1, including two new itertools and one
>>> collections class.  These are already fully documented, tested, and
>>> checked-in to 3.1 and it would be ashamed to let them sit idle for a year
>>> or
>>> so, when the module updates are already ready-to-ship.
>>
>> In that case, I recommend just releasing it as 3.1. I had always
>> anticipated a 3.1 release much sooner than the typical release
>> schedule.
>

A quick 3.1 release also shows how committed we are to 3.x and that we
realize that 3.0 had some initial growing pains that needed to be
worked out.

> I was going to object on principle to Raymond's suggestion to rip out the
> operator module functions in Python 3.0.1.

I thought it was for 3.1?

>  I have no objection to ripping
> them out for 3.1.
>
> If you really think we need a Python 3.1 soon, then I won't worry about
> trying to get a 3.0.1 out soon.  3.1 is Benjamin's baby :).
>

Depending on what Benjamin wants to do we could try for something like
a release by PyCon or at PyCon during the sprints. Actually the sprint
one is a rather nice idea if Benjamin is willing to spend sprint time
on it (and he is sticking around for the sprints) as I assume you,
Barry, will be there to be able to help in person and we can squash
last minute issues really quickly.

> If OTOH we do intend to get a 3.0.1 out, say by the end of February, then
> please be careful to adhere to our guidelines for which version various
> changes can go in.  For example, the operator methods needs to be restored
> to the 3.0 maintenance branch, and any other API changes added to 3.0 need
> to be backed out and applied only to the python3 trunk.

If you have the time for it, Barry, I am +1 on an end of February
3.0.1 with a March/April 3.1 if that works for Benjamin.

-Brett
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