On 11/1/2017 1:25 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
On 1 November 2017 at 08:50, Terry Reedy
<tjre...@udel.edu
<mailto:tjre...@udel.edu>> wrote:
In April 2016, after posting the idea to pydev list and getting 'go
ahead's from Nick Coughlin and someone else, with no negatives, I
approved Upendra Kumar's GSOC proposal to write a pip gui. This was
https://bugs.python.org/issue27051
<https://bugs.python.org/issue27051>. On June 20, Ned Deily and
Nick Coughlin vetoed adding a pip gui anywhere in the stdlib since
it depended on something not in the stdlib, and perhaps for other
reasons I don't fully understand.
Clarifying the objection here (since the linked issue is a fairly long
one): what I'm against is tightly coupling the pip-gui development &
release process to the CPython development & release process when we
don't have any compelling reason to do so.
Thank you for clarifying. This is a reason that I did not understand ;-).
Given an independently released pip-gui on PyPI (with its own version
numbering and release cadence), then I'd be +1 on bundling that as an
optional IDLE addon, ensurepip style.
I already agree in my second response on this thread that pip gui should
be on pypi.
A pip gui would be a pip add-on, not an IDLE add-on, just as turtledemo
is a turtle add-on even though one can invoke it from the IDLE menu --
as long as turtle and turtledemo are installed.
Issue 27051, write pip gui, is properly a separate issue from
https://bugs.python.org/issue23551, start a pip gui, if and when
available, from IDLE menu. I am against 'tightly coupling' something to
IDLE when there is 'no compelling reason to do so'.
--
Terry Jan Reedy
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