On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 12:50 PM Kyle Stanley <aeros...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Eric V. Smith wrote: > > In addition, I find it hard to believe someone couldn't find a sponsor > > for a well-written PEP. I'm happy to sponsor such a PEP, even if I think > > it will be rejected. Rejected PEPs serve a useful purpose, too, if only > > to point to when the same issue comes up in the future. > > Do most of the other core developers also share this perspective? Even > though PEPs were not intended to be intimidating, they definitely can be > for those who are less familiar with the process. I can imagine that many > people would think that a "sponsor" would mean fully convincing someone > to be completely on board with their idea. > > As someone who only more recently began contributing to Python, my previous > perception of PEPs were these monolithic technical > documents that were well approved by the entire community. I'm slowly > starting to see them more as simply being well structured proposals after > having seen more of them.
Not a core dev, but from my perspective, PEPs are far too "iconic". People make their first posts to python-ideas under the impression that they should be writing PEPs. No, that's not the case; start with discussion (which doesn't require a sponsor), and *then* start talking about a PEP. By the time you get that far along with a proposal, either your idea has enough support for a core dev to say "yeah, I'll sponsor that" (even if s/he doesn't actually agree with the proposal), or you know you're asking for something controversial (in which case your first hurdle is to convince a core dev). ChrisA _______________________________________________ Python-ideas mailing list -- python-ideas@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-ideas-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-ideas.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-ideas@python.org/message/6ED2GZP6PFP3REWMDIFYE7X6OS4OMVI5/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/