On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 11:52 AM Christopher Barker <python...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 3:37 PM Greg Ewing <greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz> 
> wrote:
>>
>> > However, that ship has sailed. I think it would have been minimally
>> > disruptive when True and False were first introduced,
>>
>> It would have been just as disruptive back then -- that's the
>> reason bool was made a subclass of int in the first place.
>
>
> I know why, but I'm not so sure -- no one was using a built in True or False 
> as an integer, because they didn't exist.

No, but AIUI people were creating their own globals to do that job.
And in Python 2, True and False weren't keywords, just built-ins, so
you could keep on writing "True = 1" and everything would be fine.

> I suppose folks were using the results of, e.g.  `a == b` as an integer, but 
> how often? Where else is an explicit True or False returned by Python itself?
>

Actually, I do that sort of thing periodically. Or rather, I use it as
an index, which comes to the same thing. Every language I've used
since leaving BASIC behind has allowed me to use a comparison as if it
were a 1 or a 0. (Many of them because 1 and 0 *are* the values for
true and false.) Well, every language except one, and even that one
has some oddities that make the values mostly equivalent.

ChrisA
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