On Sep 8, 2:21 pm, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2008-09-08, Chris Rebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Eric Wertman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> To expand on this a little bit, I've been subscribed to this > >> group for a couple of months, but there seems to be a bit more > >> gray area between what would go to a 'python-dev' group and a > >> 'python-user' group. Long debates about language features and > >> abstract ideas would appeal to the former, but not the latter. > >> Certainly I fall into the user category.. I'm pretty happy > >> with python, and generally just adjust to it's design and > >> features, rather than spend lots of time on whether they are > >> 'right' or could be 'better'. /shrug > > > Yeah, suggestions about changing the language are much better > > suited to the more-specific Python-ideas or Python-3000 > > mailinglists than the general-purpose c.l.p > > I don't think anybody here in c.l.p minds reading suggestions > for language features/changes, but often what the poster in > question writes is just an incomprehensible collection of > vaguely philosophical-sounding metaphores and similes > reminiscent of a hoax paper submitted as a joke to a > post-modern "journal" of some pretend science or other. > > -- > Grant Edwards grante Yow! Used staples are good > at with SOY SAUCE! > visi.com
I would almost say Grant's criticism is too harsh, and I don't think 'incomprehensible metaphors' is really a problem on Py-Dev or CL-Py, though I feel that sometimes people aren't posting in earnest. I certainly have heard some in real life though. In some cases, I have observed that people are expressing things that they genuinely have perceived, and merely haven't applied the logic necessary to notice the inconsistency in their metaphor, which is the thing that makes them 'incomprehensible' to mature logicians like Grant. For example, I sometimes hear people talk about salary as though it were social approval, and vice versa. Even though the analogy doesn't hold in every case generally, it is still a good way to express yourself in many contexts, and especially when the more precise word isn't on the tip of your tongue. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list