r <rt8...@gmail.com> writes: > On Jan 1, 2:05Â am, Jason Rumney <jasonrum...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Jan 1, 3:12Â pm, r <rt8...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > The man lives in a world driven by common sense >> >> "Common" sense suggests that his views are shared among the general >> populace. I don't see much evidence of that in the sometimes never- >> ending threads that frequently follow his postings. But it is good to >> start debates about making changes to the status quo, often the >> debates will result in worthwhile changes, even if those changes are >> not what he proposed. I just wish he would choose his venue a little >> more carefully sometimes. > > I think if you will consider society as a whole, you will see that > most people don't display much sense at all. "Joe Blow" only cares > about paris hilton, britney spears, or janet jackson wardrobe > malfunctions. The only thing they contribute to society is human > excrement. So --"Common sense is the least most common thing"-- really > means there exists no sense as a commonality. > > This can apply to higher educated people too, even Guido. Go and read > Xahs take on the Python official tutorial, you will find your self > agreeing with everything that he says. Guido filled it with so much > fluff and off topic BS, causing the learning process to shut down. The > only kind of person that might find it enjoying would be a fellow > Computer Science Graduate. I did not know it at the time but this > contributed to my late understanding of classes and regexes. And being > such a fanboy of Python and carrying such a high respect for Guido > that is hard for me to say, BUT it is the TRUTH nonetheless. Guido has > no business writing tutorials anymore, WHY you ask. Because he is too > smart, and too much on the inside. He cannot relate to the n00b > pythoneer, he has crossed the Rubicon. Less fluff more simple examples > are the key to quick learning. My love for python has blinded me to > some of the atrocities that exist here. I have many more examples from > the Official-TUT than Xah covered. > > Don't take my word, judge for yourself... > http://xahlee.org/perl-python/xlali_skami_cukta.html > > here is Xah's take on OOP, very good reading for beginners and > Gurus... > http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/t2/oop.html > > If all Xah did was come here and say "Hey, python sucks donkey > dicks!", i would pay him no mind. But he brings much intelligence, and > vigor to an otherwise boring, and sometimes mindless newsgroup. What i > like about him is his out-side-the-box thinking style. He does not > give in to this BS "Proper Society" wants to push onto us. He is a > real rebel, but WITH a cause! And the cause is to bring common sense > back to a world of fluff an BS jargonisms. I don't always agree with > his thoughts, but most the time he's spot on. Open your min c.l.py. > Lest it close forever.
Great post and I agree with you 100%. -- important and urgent problems of the technology of today are no longer the satisfactions of the primary needs or of archetypal wishes, but the reparation of the evils and damages by the technology of yesterday. ~Dennis Gabor, Innovations: Scientific, Technological and Social, 1970 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list