Raymond Wiker <r...@rawmbp.local> writes:

> Richard Riley <rileyrg...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Tamas K Papp <tkp...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:28:08 +0100, Richard Riley wrote:
>>>
>>>> posts controversial but always interesting. His ELisp tutorial is far
>>>> and away better than anything else out there for the programmer moving
>>>> to Elisp IMO. He backs up his points with reasons and supportive
>>>
>>> Programmers don't "move" to Elisp.  Emacs Lisp is used out of necessity 
>>> when you want to program Emacs.  No one in his/her right mind would use 
>>> it in any other context, as far better alternatives exist (eg CL for 
>>> those who like Lisp).
>>>
>>> Tamas
>>
>> "move to Elisp" was clearly meant as "moving towards it in order to use
>> it". In this case to modify emacs. And to suggest that jobs of work are
>> not done in Emacs is ridiculous. I am at a loss to really understand
>> what you mean here in the context.
>
>       OK, how about this: Xah's elisp code stinks to high
> heaven. His code should not be studied by anybody who actually wants
> to actually learn elisp (or anything else).

I found his tutorial easy to use and very convenient for finding out how
to do things quickly and easily. I grant you that possibly thats not the
way to be a true Elisp god, but for getting things done in a timely and
efficient manner I thought it was good.

Clearly Xah Lee stirs up some strong emotions here. I can only go on
what I have read from him and I find him interesting and always willing
to back up his own research and views.

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