Philip Semanchuk wrote:
> I think Python does lots of beneficial hand-holding. Garbage collection is > a good example. $DIETY knows, people have been struggling with manual > memory management in C and its ilk for a long time. Even though there are > good tools to help, memory leaks still happen. Python increases our > productivity by allowing us to forget about manual memory management > altogether. I can do it with tools like valgrind, but Python's makes the > point moot. Is that hand-holding? If so, I'm all for it. Hand-holding is not a well-defined term. According to Mel, garbage collectors would be hand-holding designed for soft nellies. http://www.cs.utah.edu/~elb/folklore/mel.html But Mel would probably make his own nails rather than buy them from the hardware store too. To some secret recipe involving rare metals that most people have never even heard of. And use a hammer forged from a single piece of meteor iron, shaped to fit his hand precisely. And it would be too heavy for mortals to lift. Of course the term "hand-holding" is a pejorative. The implication is that the person needing the hand-holding is like a child who needs somebody to hold their hand while they cross the road. Adults are supposed to know better (if only it were true in real life!). On the other hand, a real adult knows their limitations, and if you need a bit of hand-holding in a certain area of your life, so be it. Some errors aren't exactly a matter of inexperience and poor judgement, and so everyone can benefit from guard rails, seat belts and garbage collection. In that case, it isn't hand-holding, because there's no expectation that you should grow up from it. Even Donald Knuth probably would get benefit from a good garbage collector. I have no objection to lint tools. But separation of concerns should apply: the Python compiler should just compile what I tell it to, the linter should warn me if I'm running with scissors. -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list