I really don't get it how all of you have latched onto this idea that I
said pip tried to install Visual Studio. I said it happened when I tried
to upgrade pip, and I agreed with someone else who wondered if it might
have been Anaconda3 that did it.

May I remind you that I wasn't the one to reignite this tempest in a
teacup, I've simply tried to answer your questions.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Moore [mailto:p.f.mo...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 3:03 PM
> To: pyt...@deborahswanson.net
> Cc: python-list@python.org
> Subject: How to install Python package from source on Windows
> 
> 
> On 30 May 2017 at 21:27, Deborah Swanson 
> <pyt...@deborahswanson.net> wrote:
> > I have already offered to do whatever you would like me to 
> do on this 
> > system - after I'm up and running on Linux. I need a functioning 
> > PyCharm on this system until that happens.
> 
> OK. I'm not sure I care enough to remind you, but if you want 
> to follow up at that point, then that's great. Can you start 
> by proving your assertion that pip is trying to install Visual Studio?
> 
> > Please accept my word that the attempt to upgrade pip broke when it 
> > tried to install Visual Studio 2015, and I wouldn't even 
> have known to 
> > say that's what happened if I hadn't seen it in the 
> traceback. Quite 
> > possibly it wasn't supposed to do that, but I won't be able to 
> > reproduce that traceback until I no longer need Python3 running on 
> > this system.
> 
> I can't accept that - because there's no code that's run by 
> "python -m pip install -U pip" that would try to install 
> Visual Studio. If nothing else, how would it know where to 
> download it from? If that's not the command you used to 
> upgrade pip, then can you remind me (if you've already said) 
> or say what command you *did* use? If you can't tell me what 
> that command was, then can you accept my word that "python -m 
> pip install -U pip" cannot have been the cause of an attempt 
> to install Visual Studio 2015?
> 
> > I'm not sure what it is that you think we disagree on.
> 
> Well, the above for a start. But also, that it's worth my 
> while caring about this. I take it quite personally that you 
> keep insisting that pip can or would attempt to install 
> Visual Studio, without backing up that assertion. As far as I 
> can tell, you think that i shouldn't.
> 
> Anyway, this is getting nowhere, so I won't comment further.
> 
> Paul
> 

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