On 12/19/2022 12:28 PM, j via Python-list wrote:
I agree. Wasted too much time on last few installs.

It got to the point I downloaded python-embedded, unzipped it and set the path manually for my work (needed it as part of a compiler).

I don't set those paths. If you have several different versions installed, who knows which one the path will find first? Probably not the one you want. Without paths to the script files, I need to set them temporarily, navigate to to the right directory first, or create a dedicated batch file, but at least I get the right ones that way.

I don't find it to be a problem.

It ain't good enough. And I like python.

jan

On 18/12/2022 11:50, Jim Lewis wrote:
I'm an occasional user of Python and have a degree in computer science.
Almost every freaking time I use Python, I go through PSH (Python Setup
Hell). Sometimes a wrong version is installed. Sometimes it's a path issue.
Or exe naming confusion: python, python3, phthon311, etc. Or library
compatibility issues - took an hour to find out that pygame does not work
with the current version of python. Then the kludgy PIP app and using a DOS box under Windows with command prompts which is ridiculous. God only knows
how many novice users of the language (or even intermediate users) were
lost in the setup process. Why not clean the infrastructure up and make a
modern environment or IDE or something better than it is now. Or at least
good error messages that explain exactly what to do. Even getting this
email to the list took numerous steps.

-- A frustrated user

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