FWIW: After going through everything I could find for OS X (PyOxide, SPE, IDLE, etc) and giving up on all of it, I finally sprang for $35 for the Personal Edition of WingIDE. It's very good, and very well supported. The Personal Edition is missing a bunch of stuff I don't care about and one thing I do, debug Watch values. The debugger is well integrated; you can debug by the project or by the module, which is very handy. Though the editor is slightly clunky (I prefer TextWrangler) it's perfectly workable. The integration with wxPython is excellent.

The only thing I don't like about Wing -- aside from having to pay actual money -- is that it runs under X11, the only app I have (so far) that requires it. The different (anti-Mac) key-bindings are annoying, but I believe I could change that if I took the time to build a "personality" in Wing. The performance hit from X11 doesn't seem to be severe, and it plays well with Virtual Desktop Pro (which I'm also going to have to pay for because after five days I can't live without it).

Charles Hartman
Professor of English, Poet in Residence
http://cherry.conncoll.edu/cohar
http://villex.blogspot.com

On Jan 7, 2005, at 4:55 PM, Brendan Simons wrote:

This is an old thread, (and an old topic) but my
question is about the state of the "new tools"
described in Bob's presentation at last year's pyCon.

Scanning the archives, I see Jack and Just have talked
about a PyObjC-based python ide since 2002.  I've
really anxious to see how they are coming along.

I've used PyOXIDE, and am suitably impressed, but it
is still way too crashy for daily use.  There are some
promising wx-based IDEs which run fine (PyPE,
PythonCard Editor, SPE), but none include a debugger,
and most look just a little "off" .

So, what news?

-
Brendan Simons
Stern Laboratories
Hamilton, ON, Canada




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