Saber Razmjooei wrote > On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 10:39, Antongeo76 <
> antoviscomi@ > > wrote: > >> berndv. wrote >> > Hi, >> > >> > I can't contribute to your particular problems, but have some remarks. >> > >> > You said you "reverted" to 2.18. On Windows, you can easily run 3.x >> > besides 2.x. Do you have the same problems with 2.18? If so, it's >> > really your personal installation that fails, I think. >> > >> > The node tool was redesigned in 3.x, and there is quite a discussion >> > going on, cause not so many people like the new behaviour. >> > >> > In general, I would like to say, that the promotion of the newest >> > release shown in QGIS is quite a bad idea: The inexperienced will not >> > hesitate to update and therefore run in every possible bug, being left >> > clueless, while the more experienced are more cautious and install it >> > only anlongside for testing purposes first. >> > >> > The developers are in a bad situation: They need lots of testers to >> find >> > bugs, but in my opinion they reach the wrong users with that >> > advertisement. (no idea how to improve this) >> > >> > Furthermore, the new version had a bad start, cause (as I understood) >> > last-minute-changes in dependencies caught them unprepared. >> > >> > Unfortunately, no one gives warnings about the major issues somewhere >> > prominently e.g. on the QGIS.org website, so you have to read the >> > mailing-list(s) and search in the issue queue yourself. In my opinion, >> > in QGIS3 the developers were a little too ambitious, but it seems they >> > also had kind of bad luck as well. Lots of features introduced are >> > somewhat bleeding-edge and need time to ripe. >> > >> > As I rarely use Windows, I'm not of big help. I just want to recommend >> > you to use the network installer (advanced install!) and install the >> 2.x >> > LTR and the 3.x LTR in parallel and update them through the installer >> > once in a while, and keep 2.18 for productive work as long as you do >> not >> > trust the 3.x version. >> > >> > The open source mantra is "release early, release often", but that >> > doesn't mean that everyone has to update early and often as well! >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Bernd >> > >> > Am 10.12.18 um 17:59 schrieb David Addy: >> >> I have always loved QGIS and I have extolled its virtues to local >> >> historians >> >> and archaeologists in my area. >> >> I have had to keep quiet about it lately. >> >> I was somewhat relieved to hear a comment on a recent video of the >> >> Oceania >> >> meeting that QGIS 3.4.1 was a dud release as it caused Windows to >> crash >> >> at >> >> random moments. I had thought that all the long pauses, messages of >> QGIS >> >> not >> >> responding, and crashing when being closed down was some awful feature >> >> unique to my computer. I had even tried reverting to 2.18 for a while. >> >> However, after I upgraded to 3.4.2 I still had problems. >> >> Opening QGIS on Windows 10 can take over half a minute before anything >> >> happens apart from the outline box of the QGIS window full of blank >> >> space. >> >> Once a project finally loads up any random operation can still get the >> >> "QGIS >> >> not responding" message. >> >> This can result in further issues because I try pressing buttons to >> get >> a >> >> response. >> >> I even bought Anita's 4th edition of "Learn QGIS" to see if I was >> doing >> >> something radically wrong. It did highlight a few wrinkles until I got >> to >> >> page 55 when I discovered instructions on the edit node tool. This >> tool >> I >> >> had used OK in the past, but it now baffles me totally. I cannot get >> it >> >> to >> >> do what the book says. >> >> I am now losing my confidence in 3.4.2 and can only hope that the next >> >> point >> >> release will produce improvements. >> >> It would really help if known major issues like this could be posted >> >> here, >> >> perhaps as a sticky which stays at the top, to let users know that >> they >> >> are >> >> not alone with an issue. >> >> Sorry to complain. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Sent from: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/QGIS-User-f4125267.html >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Qgis-user mailing list >> >> >> >> > Qgis-user@.osgeo >> >> >> List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >> >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Qgis-user mailing list >> >> > Qgis-user@.osgeo >> >> > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >> >> HI Bernd, >> I fully agree with you, >> even on the fact of the versions installed and to be used for >> productivity >> (I've installed all concomitant versions available for a single machine, >> and >> I use them almost every day)... >> the fact is that every time I write about freezes or general >> malfunctions >> (here or in QGIS issues) >> I seem to be the only one to be affected (or we are in very few users to >> observe and report these anomalies) ... >> >> Greetings >> unfortunately it is often difficult to communicate remotely ... >> we should have a developer sitting next to prove that the software often >> does not run as it should and you would expect >> >> > https://www.qgis.org/en/site/forusers/commercial_support.html#core-contributors > https://nyalldawson.net/2016/08/how-to-effectively-get-things-changed-in-qgis/ > > Regards > Saber > > >> >> ----- >> Antonio >> -- >> Sent from: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/QGIS-User-f4125267.html >> _______________________________________________ >> Qgis-user mailing list >> > Qgis-user@.osgeo >> List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > > > > -- > Saber Razmjooei > www.lutraconsulting.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@.osgeo > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Saber, Many thanks for these links, I have no claim other and report what I observe in the use of QGIS. I'm not a developer and I'm not have familiar with c ++ / python, I hope not to be considered me as in point 7 of https://nyalldawson.net/2016/08/how-to-effectively-get-things-changed-in-qgis/ Unfortunately I have not got a continuous job then I can not help you making an economic contribution, but only give this poor contribution reporting anomalies... if you do not need it I will not waste more time Regards Antonio ----- Antonio -- Sent from: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/QGIS-User-f4125267.html _______________________________________________ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user