Re: [ql-users] Perfection

Thu, 07 Oct 2004 10:37:29 -0700

Im not quite sure if that was a sarcastic aside?? I thought it was a genuine observation. It seems to me that the "QL WORLD" is getting too elitist and forgetting the bottom of the heap, you know, the ordinary users. No wonder QL users are leaving in a steady trickle for Mr Gates world when our experts act too aloof. Point in mind, apart from Perfection, which I now believe is a lost cause - I purchased (yes, purchased) an update from Qbranch of Datadesign for the high colour drivers. It don't work past the first filter level. Report it to Roy Wood, who duly said he would report the findings to the author/updater .... To date, no reply, no nothing. I am now a few quid out of pocket with something worse than the thing it was perported to update! Roy says he has had no feedback from whoever supposedly updated the code. Why?. I have been with my QL, Aurora and ultimately my Q40 since 1985. It is beginning to feel like its time to move on and leave Qdos/Smsq/e to all of you elitists
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Ohhhhh... Sorry!!

I had thought it was available, just the hi-res screen version that wasn't.

Dilwyn - is it in your PD library??

Calling Dave GIlham.................

cheers,

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Darren, you are missing my point.. If DP released the original PERFECTION
as
freeware, then why isn't THAT version available?
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Freddy gave permission for the original version to be released, ie. the
one
he created.

Mark and Dave have done considerable work on the version I have, and in
the
pure and simple interest of good manners, i feel it would be unfair to
distribute it until I hear from them. I'm sure it would be fine, but lets
just say I have incurred Marks fury on one occasion before, and I don't
want to go there again. Mark never told me the status of the upgraded
version he gave me - was it to be charityware, cardware, freeware,
shareware or what. I'm not going to release something into the PD unless
I'm sure thats what the author(s) wanted done with it. The majority of it
is Freddy's work, sure, but some of the code in there is Marks.

I sent an email to the address Dilwyn provided, but it bounced
back...............

So, unless someone has a newer email or phone number for Mark (or Dave),
well...

Cheers,

Darren Branagh,
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If Freddie Vaccha gave permission for Perfection to become freeware, then
why can't it be released eh????
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. 
Not entirely true :-) I submitted that idea to my graduating supervisor
professor at the uni and I was approved :-) That means that the
ql-archive
will be a reality (that is if I want to graduate in December ;-)
For status now: I am finished with the database structure and most of
the 
search code (in PHP).


Glad to hear this, but I am not so interested in the technical side of
the
archiving, but in the practical. I am not sure that the people who
raised
this issue 2 months ago were all talking about the same thing. Pity
there 
was no proper discussion of this at the time.

Practical problems are for example:

1: How do you make a complete inventory of all the QL software, both PD
and
commercial, that has ever been published? This first stage could occupy
a 
team for months on end.

2: How do you contact the copyright holders and/or authors when there is
no
up to date contact information? Specifically how would you solve the
QLiberator problem.

3: How do you sort out complicated copyright questions? For example
Freddy 
V
gave permission for Perfection to become freeware, but not Spellchecker.
Or
think of the situation with the EasyPtr upgrade.

4: How do you cope with the anal retention problem, where an author
refuses
to release or modify code? (e.g. the Text87 problem.)

If we are really serious about a software archive, then it should not be
a 
one man effort, but a team looking at these problems.

Best Wishes,
Geoff



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