Hi John,
QUANTA has been very good to us here in North America by consitently funding the
conference rooms when we have held shows. Probably giving more than it has
received in North American subsriptions in the past 10 years. And I certainly do
not blame you personally for a mostly thankless job. I guess I mostly want to
see a few promising projects come forward with a plan and be funded before there
is no one left on this email group.
-- Bill
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, John Gilpin wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Cable" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 7:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [ql-users] Comment from the "Traditional" QUANTA Committee
>
>
> I have let my Quanta membership lapse so I am talking as an outsider at the
> moment. I see no earthly reason for Quanta to keep 12,000 BPD (23,000 USD)
> in a
> bank account. Funding a suitable free QL OS on the software side and a
> Goldfire
> type device on the hardware side would be a good investment even if every
> last
> cent was spent and nothing came of it because at least it would be an
> attempt to
> do something. As things now stand we will all fade away and die and that
> money
> will only be good for making memorial plaque in some computer museum for
> people
> to look at and wonder. As has been said, "Money is like manure, of very
> little
> use except it be spread". I will consider joining again when there is some
> movement along these lines.
>
> -- Bill
>
>
> {Does it take an obviously dissatisfied past QUANTA Member to stimulate some
> positive action here? QUANTA Committee are (and have always been) ready to
> discuss the requirements of its members (past and present) but what do you
> want us to do? We could leave a plain parcel containg £12,000 on a lonely
> park bench somewhere just in case a QLer passed by and needed to develop
> something. Come on now you guys, TALK TO US instead of dropping all kinds of
> hints which we have no intention of responding to in a way that you would
> consider helpful. What better time to get things moving with the AGM only a
> few weeks away. Plenty of time to submit your project and it could even be
> discussed by the members who are interested enough to attend the AGM.}
>
> {In the meantime Bill, we all hope that you will reconsider your decision to
> leave QUANTA. You might even help us to solve this problem (what to do with
> QUANTA's money) from the inside!
>
> Regards,
>
> John Gilpin.}
>
> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, gwicks wrote:
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Gilpin" <>
> > To: "ql-users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 9:32 PM
> > Subject: [ql-users] Comment from the "Traditional" QUANTA Committee
> >
> >
> >
> > >What my Audited Accounts do tell me is that QUANTA still has an
> > >Accumulated
> > >Fund of over £12,000 (all will be disclosed in the next issue of QUANTA
> > >Magazine) and we have a committee who are prepared to listen to specific
> > >requests for loans or grants for QL Development.
> >
> > >This has been the situation since I joined the Committee in 2000 (just at
> > >the end of a very successful arrangement with D & D and their work in
> > >supplying Q40/60s). We have extended our offer on a number of occasions
> > >but
> > >have had no takers to date. Let me repeat, on behalf of the QUANTA
> > >Committee, "If you have a project which you think would be valuable to
> > >the
> > >QL fraternity but which needs some development support, PLEASE write to
> > >us
> > >with as much detail as you can give, including your business plan, to
> > >enable us to consider your request.
> >
> > >Bye the Bye, don't expect a chat line comment like "If QUANTA were to
> > >sponsor someone to the tune of $100 US + postage" to produce immediate
> > >financial support. Come on you guys, tickle the keyboard ivories and ask
> > >us
> > >properly for what you think you need!! The worst you can expect is for
> > >this
> > >"traditionalist committee" to say " Not this time."
> >
> > I have returned to this mailing, because I realised overnight that you
> > have
> > unwittingly defined the difference between a "radical" and a
> > "traditionalist".
> >
> > The last time a Goldfire type expansion card was seriously discussed by
> > the
> > QL community was in 2004. This radical was not sitting on his backside
> > waiting for a piece of paper. He was out there in the field talking to the
> > potential developer (and other developers) at QL2004. He was also talking
> > to
> > the trader who would have marketed the card about preparing a business
> > plan.
> > (Now what were the Quanta team at QL2004 doing? - oh sorry, I forgot -
> > Quanta boycotted the first international QL show for 4 years.)
> >
> > We know the Dear Leader is never happier that when he has a few pieces of
> > paper to play with, but surely you can see the difference between a
> > Goldfire
> > project with an investment of £5,000 and a USB project with an investment
> > of
> > about £100.
> >
> > That is a fifth of the cost of the AA signposting at QLis21, less than the
> > cost of the "beads for the natives" Phone Trees and less that the cost of
> > the Gay T-shirts.
> >
> > Do we really have to wait for the great Quanta beast to arise from its
> > hibernation and slowly creak into bureaucratic action? This is something
> > that could have been settled over a weekend with a few telephone calls or
> > emails. The only paperwork that was necessary was a receipt for the cost
> > of
> > the boards and a record in the Quanta minute book,
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Geoff
> >
> >
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