On 6 Feb 2011, at 21:07, Malcolm Cadman wrote:

> In message <4d45ec4b.7030...@sbcglobal.net>, Timothy Swenson 
> <swenso...@sbcglobal.net> writes
> 
>> On 1/30/2011 10:48 AM, Malcolm Cadman wrote:
>>> Were Officers to be elected, directly, at an AGM, it would open the door
>>> to someone incompetent to get voted in, or some collusion to take place.
>> 
>> Interesting, as California State code for Non-profits pretty much specifies 
>> that members vote on officers and the board.  It is only the members that 
>> can make any changes to the By-laws.
>> 
>> I'm guessing that the AGM is the same as a General Member Meeting. Most 
>> non-profits have one every year for elections.  In one non-profit I'm 
>> involved with, rarely does a regular member attend these meetings and only 
>> the Board members show up (even with the required notification sent out).
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> I think that we are talking about the same thing.
> 
> The full membership attends a General Meeting of Members ... in the UK called 
> an Annual General Meeting (AGM), as it is held once a Year.
> 
> The general membership are there to see the people being put forward for the 
> Committee (Board).
> 
> However, suppose at the AGM a member puts themselves forward for the 
> Treasurer ... and all the other members present then vote for that person.
> 
> Yet, the member voted in has not demonstrated any competence for the Position 
> ..... see the problem?
> 
> The Committee (Board) cannot then function.
> 

Usually you can't put forward new proposals at an AGM. Only business listed in 
the Notice of the Meeting can be transacted. However, the problem of ordinary 
members proposing and electing non competent people is real. When I have had 
anything to do with such situations I have seen to it that the Committee or 
Board or whatever you like to call it put forward what they consider competent 
candidates. But allowing members to propose other candidates if they want.

If that fails, it is also usual to have the power of co-option so that the 
right person can be appointed later.

I would have thought that elections are normally to the Committee or Board and 
not to a post within the Committee. In other words the members would not 
normally elect a Treasurer.

Perhaps the entire constitution of Quanta needs altering.

George 
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