blah blah blah blah

thsi has been explained and discussed on teh regular qmail list to 
death, there is no point in repeating it here.

* Zachary Kotlarek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-06-21 17:16]:
> I hate to contribute to this absurd thread, but I can't stand it.
> 
> First, let's stop with the name calling. Jumping from the mention (with 
> documentation, I might add) that MS is looking into SPF, to the fact 
> that you don't like their OS hardly makes your point seem more 
> credible. It also doesn't help to call SPF "crap" without even a word 
> of explanation -- if you'd like to convince us you might, I don't know, 
> offer evidence or citations or anything other than a loaded, 
> unsupported, single-word opinion.
> 
> Second, MS and AOL are large players in the email world. Maybe you 
> don't mind not being able to communicate with anyone at Hotmail, MSN, 
> or AOL, but for most of us, that's not an option. Hence it's probably 
> not a good idea for us to simply ignore their decision to try SPF. 
> Whether SPF is a valuable spam-fighting tool or not is irrelevant -- we 
> may someday need to support SPF in order to play with MS and AOL.
> 
> While the merits of SPF are debatable, I think the idea of an interface 
> hook for some sort of sender verification (and rejection/marking) is a 
> good one. It doesn't have to be SPF specific, and in fact I'd suggest 
> that it's not, as a standardized interface is almost always more 
> useful. Setting up a SPF/domainkeys/etc. verification tool however, 
> would be much easier if I could call it with an environmental variable, 
> rather than hacking it into the delivery chain somewhere.
> 
> Such integration also allows for possible interaction with things like 
> the tarpit system, or other existing pieces of qmail. Moreover, this 
> sort of hook could be used to build custom authorization systems, which 
> might be handy for say, allowing some users to send anywhere, and 
> others to send only locally. I'm sure there are other examples as well; 
> my point is that we shouldn't dismiss the idea of an ENV-driven mail 
> pre-processor somewhere near the SMTP end of the system, as there are 
> many potential uses, including SPF.
> 
>       Zach
> 
> On Jun 21, 2004, at 5:22 PM, Henning Brauer wrote:
> 
> >* Brian Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-06-21 16:12]:
> >>If [SPF] is complete crap, why are companies like AOL and Microsoft
> >>behind it?
> >
> >yeah right, M$ windoze is the best OS in the world.
> >
> >do your homework and read the SPF thread on the regular qmail list.
> 
> --
> 
> As a very witty man once said...
> 
>     "There's a shortage of perfect breasts in this world. 'T'would be a 
> pity to damage yours."



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