On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Dave Sill wrote:

> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Im reading life with qmail as we speak.  I really wish I could extend
> >the deadline, but we are switching ISPs since our current ISP is
> >going under. They had been doing mail relaying for us, so all CCmail
> >had to do was connect up and pull its mail down.
> 
> I don't know anything about CCmail...how does it "pull its mail down"?
> Does it use SMTP and ETRN, POP, IMAP, or something else?

cc:Mail is a closed email system, basically people read their mail out of
a shared database which suffers from the same problems as people suing
mbox for storing mail in without the benefit of it being a text file...

it comes with many different gateways (from IBM/Lotus) which allow you to
connect into lots of different mail providers, including SMTP, X.400,
uucp, and a closed-protocol. Several large connectivity providers offer a
native cc:Mail service since the cc:mail router can dial and transfer
messages to that and it is fairly easy for people to setup.

so, in this case the first question is:
 what gateway are you suing in the cc:mail setup to connect to the
service? if you are using ANYTHING other than either lotus' SMTP gateway
or one of the third-party SMTP gateways stop right now and obtain one of
these. when I had the misfortune to deal with cc:mail I downloaded one off
the Internet and evaluated it, but in the end we scrapped cc:Mail and went
to a pop/SMTP-based system

 if you download what windows-based one I have used before and your
deadlines are tight stop looking at qmail right now and setup the SMTP
relay to route mail for you using MX-record processing. it can be done, it
does work and it'll let you meet your deadline without struggling with
qmail.

once your users have email flowing though the windows box to the Internet
setup qmail on another box next to it; get inbound mail into your site
flowing though your qmail box and to the SMTP gateway. once that is
working check outbound mail from your qmail box to the rest of the
Internet and once you're satisfied switch the SMTP gateway to route out
through qmail. finally firewall the cc:Mail SMTP gateway so it can only be
reached from the qmail machine.



RjL
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