Vern Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Yesterday, Ben Beuchler wrote:
>> 
>> I recommend whoever it is that is doing the lovely qmail shirts (I'll be
>> ordering mine shortly!) should do one that says "What Do The Logs
>> Say?(tm)".  I know I would buy one...
>
>I did a little research to find the true attribution of this phrase.
>The first person to mention that it is a trademark was Dave Sill:
>
>  http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/2000/04/msg00272.html

The trademark bit was a joke, of course.

>There was a message that attributed a 1998 copyright to Dave Sill:
>
>  http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/2000/08/msg01417.html

And I think he just pulled that out of ... thin air.

>So, how about this:  Shirt front, small on right side:  the qmail
>dolphin with http://lwq.w3.to and/or http://qmail.org under it.  On
>the back, the dolphin (bigger) with this quote under it:
>
>   What Do The Logs Say?(tm)
>     -- Dave Sill, Life with qmail
>
>(with various font sizes as appropriate)
>
>Thoughts?  Objections?  Contentions?

It doesn't seem right to attribute it to LWQ if it's not in LWQ.

I use the lwq.w3.to URL because it's short. Do people find the pop-up
ad annoying? If so, I could set up http://lwq.sill.org to redirect to
http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq. In fact, I think I'll do that
anyway[1]. Unfortunately, sill.org sits on a 28.8K dialup, so I can't
serve LWQ (in volume) directly. Maybe someday I'll get decent
connectivity.[2]

-Dave

Footnotes: 
[1]  Anyone know how to do that off the top of their head?
[2]  http://www.starband.com/, perhaps?

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