Cifton, Alan,
   The ls -lut command appears to resolve the need for a temp file.  As far 
as server mode is concerned, I might try it.  The way I see it is that I 
will have a consequence either way.  I either risk subverted quota systems 
filling up filesystems (which has happened twice now) or I risk corrupted 
mail boxes due to potential multiple access methods.  We use elm instead of 
pine.  Out of over 1500 users, I think there are very few that use their 
shell account.  They tend to usually be CS students with a few 
exceptions.  I could try to use the feature for applying per user basis, 
but I really don't know from time to time all the users that might use 
their shell account.  So it might be better for me to incorporate a warning 
into their shell login.
   Alternatively, I might give the double to triple hard quota size a 
try.  This still can be subverted, but it would take longer and probably 
result in fewer incidences.
   Thanks for all the advice!
Tim


At 10:51 AM 02/15/2002 -1000, Clifton Royston wrote:
>On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 02:14:44PM -0600, Tim Tyler wrote:
> > Clifton, Alan,
> >   Ok, perhaps moving to server mode is a good idea.  I have a couple
> > questions:
> >   1. What is the consequence of elm and popping at the same time?  How easy
> > is it to repair? -note: I agree that it is probably rare that it would
> > happen simultaneously, but I am sure it eventually will.
>
>   Bad in server mode; it must be guaranteed to never happen; that's why
>I don't ever enable server mode for users who have a real shell.
>
> >   2. I presume that in server mode there is no temp file any more.  How 
> does
> > one keep track of the last time a user popped?  This is important for me in
> > finding stagnant accounts.
>
>   It still uses the temp file when necessary, but that seems to be only
>10-20% of sessions.
>
>   Yes, it's an important feature for our tech support too, and
>incorporated into some of the status scripts they use.  If you enable
>the keep-temp-drop parameter, qpopper will keep the temp files around
>so you can check their date.
>
>   -- Clifton
>
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