I think I have already shared this, but my hands are like chunks of ice 
beginning at the wrist. Don't know what triggers it, when, or why. I hold them 
in front of a heater and they gradually warm up. More manure on the marvelous 
mountain of quad quackery.
Larry Willis
Retired and proud of it


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> From: greg <g...@eskimo.com>
> Date: October 3, 2015 at 3:31:38 PM EDT
> To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Getting Old, Panic,
> 
> I often fall asleep a few times in the day, but luckily I don't need as much 
> sleep as I use to.
> Though I am going nutz, I just don't know what to try next. My arms, mostly 
> the back of my forearms, wake me up just burning cold, though they are warm. 
> Yet the first thing I do when I get up is go sit in the sun. It relaxes my 
> muscles and helps stop my shaking.
> 
> Why does warmth from blanket cause cold shaking, but warmth from sun feel 
> great.
> 
> I'm going to try a sun / heat lamp in bed. Maybe that might help
> I hope. 
> 
> Thx, Greg
> 
>> Greg, that sounds like a nightly bit of hell. How do you get any
>> rest? Like I said, I have a touch of it but nothing to the extent
>> that you do. God bless you, my friend. I pray that you find relief
>> and comfort and sweet gentle sleep. Larry
>> 
>> Larry WillisRetired and proud of it
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>>> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
>>> From: greg <g...@eskimo.com>
>>> Date: October 2, 2015 at 4:24:23 PM EDT
>>> To: <quad-list@eskimo.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Getting Old, Panic
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I probably wake up 3-4 times a night, shaking cold (most of the
>>> time I'm warm though) sometimes I can't get back to sleep for
>>> hours. I maybe go all night not waking up shaking 3 nights a
>>> month. I've tried meds, changing position, a drink before bed,
>>> head raised, lowered, heavier blankets, lighter blankets, just a
>>> sheet, etc.
>>> 
>>> I say I'm overheated but really I'm just toasty warm. I can feel
>>> warm hands on my face, but temp is normal. It's only in bed, with
>>> a blanket. My arms feel like they are bruised and in ice water.
>>> During the day they kind of feel that way, but not so bad I shake
>>> uncontrollably. Once I get up, I stop shaking in about 10
>>> minutes. Though my arms always feel like ice water.
>>> 
>>> I was in the hospital about 8 months ago or so, and it did it in
>>> their bed too. So it's not my mattress.
>>> 
>>> Thx, Greg
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Greg, I have almost that same problem about once a week. I will
>>>> 
>>>> wake up very uncomfortable but I can't tell if I am hot or
>>>> cold. My
>>>> 
>>>> hands are always like icicles regardless. And I have the
>>>> shivers,
>>>> 
>>>> something my father used to do....and he was able-bodied. Our
>>>> body
>>>> 
>>>> thermostats are screwed up. I get overheated, think I am cold,
>>>> pile
>>>> 
>>>> on more covers and get even hotter. Sucks to the high heavens.
>>>> Hate
>>>> 
>>>> it.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Larry WillisRetired and proud of it
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> From: greg <g...@eskimo.com>
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Date: September 30, 2015 at 8:30:46 PM EDT
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> To: <quad-list@eskimo.com>
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Getting Old, Panic
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I went 20 years before I had my first panic attack. I've only
>>>>> had
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> a few what I would call panic attacks. Where I just had to
>>>>> get up
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> in the middle of the night. The few bad ones I notice I got
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> really overheated and could not get the blanket off. When I'm
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> really hot, I just don't feel like I'm getting enough air. If
>>>>> I
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> lay to flat I can't breath as good either. I have the bed
>>>>> remote,
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> but it has fallen a few times.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I more often get this obsessive worrying. Then that leads to
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> worrying I'm going to have an attack if I lay down. Only once
>>>>> it
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> was bad enough I stayed up all night in my chair. Then I feel
>>>>> bad
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I gave in to it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have bed, fan, tv, remotes now. I have them all tied onto
>>>>> the
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> bed remote. Unfortunately to use one I have to uncover my arm
>>>>> and
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> often can't get it covered back up. Luckily, most of the tv is
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> voice controlled. I still need to get control of my lights. I
>>>>> had
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> it on my Sicare, but the switch receiver burned/shorted out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> My biggest issue at night is for some reason just getting
>>>>> pretty
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> warm, not even overheated, just enough to feel warm hands. My
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> arms start feeling like they are frozen. I feel so cold I
>>>>> start
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> uncontrollably shaking. I uncover my arms and it gets better,
>>>>> but
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> just until I get for real cold. I only shake that bad when my
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> arms get warm from blankets, temp normal, or my temp drops to
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 95.5 or lower.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't think it's Dysreflexia, that usually drops my temp. No
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> other way of getting warm causes this. Once I start shaking
>>>>> that
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> bad I start feeling like I NEED to get up.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greg

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