You've found a source of genuine Ford 1.4i tanks ?
I did try a Mk3 Fiesta setup in a Mk2 tank, it was too high to fit in the
Mk2 tank.
Any Ford part numbers on the sender, i can look them up.
The Mk3 sender isn't compatible with the Mk2 gauge so yes, that could be the
problem.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Derek Clews
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:49 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Injection petrol tanks (again)
That makes sense.
I have found someone who can supply the Fiesta 1.4i tanks! But it will not
be the same as mine then. Is it worth changing to one of these?
I have been 'removing the dents' as best I can and will paint and replace
this same one. Inside it is nice and clean, so that is something. I have
read other XR2 web sites and it seems the Mk3 system has been used by
others. Though later I might prefer a standard 40 litre tank with an
external pump and swirl pot. It's just a case of finding the space for
them. The current arrangement is very neat with everything inside the tank.
(that is, until the bottom gets pushed in!)
This swirl pot is just right to fit the standard tank profile, I assume it
was from a Mk3 tank along with the pump and sender.(?)
That being the case does that mean the sender is not compatible with the Mk
2 gauge and that was the problem all along?
Derek
On 17 Jul 2012, at 14:55, Jim Hearne wrote:
The Fiesta 1.4I tanks had an internal plastic swirl pot and then 2 pipe
(one big, one small) that came out through the front of the tank to an
external fuel pump.
This fixed into a curved recess on the front of the tank thats there on
all Fiesta tanks even though it's only used on the EFI.
The fiesta centre tank is the same except the swirl pot is steel and
doesn't work.
Sounds like somebody has fitted a swirl pot with integral pump (maybe Mk3
Fiesta) into the Mk2 tank.
I did look into this myself but didn't find a swirl pot low enough to
still let the tank fit up against the floor.
Jim
-----Original Message----- From: Derek Clews
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:21 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Injection petrol tanks (again)
Jim,
Would the Fiesta injection tanks by Ford (for the European 1.4i) have fuel
feed and return in the wall of the tank, not the top? If so, where was
the fuel pump fitted?
What was the arrangement of the old fiesta centre tanks?
The one I have has the sender, fuel pump and electrics all on a large
circular plate that fits in the top of the tank and rests inside the
plastic swirl pot attached to the bottom of the tank. Now it's cleaned up
it looks like the tank top has been cut and welded to get the pot inside
and possibly the larger socket for the plate. Is it likely I have the
fiesta centre tank? Or even a DIY one combining Fiesta and Escort with
the XR3i EFi set up grafted in?
If it is the old Fiesta Centre one then some of my running problems may be
down to the rumoured bad swirl pot design.
I have found a separate float! It's available from Holden around £6.
Just as well as the old one is really crumbling as it's dried out.
Derek
On 16 Jul 2012, at 23:23, Derek Clews wrote:
Jim, that's a thought. This float looks like a fine foam rubber cylinder
and part of it has broken off, so I may be able to work around what is
left. But I recall many being a sealed plastic cylinder and wondered
about getting a replacement. But they don't seem to be sold separately
on the web.
Derek
On 16 Jul 2012, at 22:13, Jim Hearne wrote:
If you can make up a suitable plug to go in the fuel filler hole, could
you pressurise the tank with a hose to "pop" the dented section back out
?
A airline might also work but water is safer.
The float on all the Mk2 tanks i've seen has just been a sealed plastic
cylinder clipped into a loop on the end of the sender arm.
Jim
On 16/07/2012 18:40, Derek Clews wrote:
I have removed my coupe fuel tank and it is an injection one with the
plastic internal housing (swirl pot), fuel pump and sender. I have
found the bottom of the tank has been pushed in quite a long way and
the fuel pump was hard up against the bottom. The piping may have been
bent to a different angle as well, difficult to tell at this point.
Also the float has broken, though the sender does vary resistance with
movement so this may be all that is wrong wit that. (if the angle of
the unit were OK)
The tank does not leak and I am wondering about trying to re shape it
myself or even send it to a tank repairers. Anyone got any experience
of this?
Also using alternative floats - any suggestions? I cannot see any
floats from any car available separately so far they are all attached
to senders.
I know the injection tanks are rare and recent investigations prove
that getting one made is very expensive. Alternatively, fitting a more
standard non-injection tank with external pump(s) and after market
swirlpot is a thought. If there can be any place found to fit the
stuff as it's very tight underneath! Again any experience of this?
Thanks
Derek
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