I should be able to look it up tonight. Jim
On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 10:10:14 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote: > > Thanks Jim > > > > Any idea what part number the short arm is? > > > > I have found on with part number 88AU7515AA, are you able to identify this? > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > *From:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto: > quantumowners@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jim Hearne > *Sent:* 06 September 2018 22:05 > *To:* Quantum Owners Group <quantumowners@googlegroups.com> > *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem > > > > I thought i had mentioned this in a earlier reply but maybe i didn't. > > > > There were 2 lengths of clutch release lever used that match up with the 2 > cable holes in the gearbox that you've seen. > > As you say, the shorter level will give you more movement on the release > bearing for the same cable movement but at the expense of a heavier pedal. > > I'm not really sure why there were 2 lengths but i've always used the > short lever. > > I guess it's possible that the long lever was for the low lift bearing > which needed less movement. > > > > As has been mentioned, the lever can shear off where it is welded to the > shaft, also the bolt can shear off where the release bearing bracket is > attached inside the gearbox/ > > > > The later gearboxes had a different lever arrangment which attached to a > separate shaft via splines and a pinch bolt. > > > > Jim > > > > Jim > > > > On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 8:29:22 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote: > > Martin > > > > I hear what you are saying about the Quadrant, I want to ensure no easy > fixes are left untried. > > > > Unfortunately it is too late to make more checks as the engine/gearbox are > out again. However I can confirm he clutch pedal was going to the floor. > Actually I was hitting the Fiberglass bulkhead as I removed all the carpet > and sound deadening from behind the pedal just to eliminate that concern. > > > > My other thought is the gearbox has two holes for the clutch cable to pass > through. I am starting to wonder if I can use the other hole which means > tha cable will pull on the release arm nearer to the shaft so I get more > degrees of turn for a given movement of the clutch pedal. I know this will > lead to a heavier clutch pedal, I need to find something that will work. > This would need a different, shorter, arm of some sort of mod to the > existing one. > > > > While the gear linkage UJ is a little stiff. I had no problem selecting > gears before taking the engine out and I can select gears easily when the > engine isn’t running. So definitely the clutch is dragging even when the > clutch pedal is fully depressed. > > > > Chris > > > > *From:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto: > quantumowners@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Susan and Martin Scott > *Sent:* 06 September 2018 13:37 > *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem > > > > Hmm - Your thought that the thrust bearing may have been pressing (when it > shouldn't) sounds correct. The movement of the cable will only be 10% more > with the 55mm quadrant - Is it possible to check how much cable is pulled > when the clutch is fully depressed, in order to get an idea whether the arm > will nearly reach the limit (ie hit casing)? Does the pedal hit the floor, > or could the arm move more if the pedal was able to move more (ie bigger > quadrant will help by 10%) if that makes sense. Just trying to get an idea > of the full picture....... All knowledge gained before tackling the job is > probably worthwhile. I went round in circles with replacing quadrant/cable > until I realised the issue must be the clutch (also had the gearchange > linkage in bits, and although that wasn't the root of the problem it was > too tight) > > Martin > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group > <quantumowners@googlegroups.com> > > *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com > > *Sent:* Thursday, September 06, 2018 1:16 PM > > *Subject:* RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem > > > > Marin > > > > No slack at the gearbox or pedal end when depressing the clutch > > > > Chris > > > > *From:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com [ > mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com <quantumowners@googlegroups.com>] *On > Behalf Of *Susan and Martin Scott > *Sent:* 05 September 2018 22:09 > *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem > > > > Hi Chris, > > If I recall correctly the Escort quadrant is the 55mm black one. With an > observer, is it possible to see if the arm starts moving when the pedal is > depressed, or if there is a delay indicating slack being taken up. Could > also 'twang' the cable at the arm to guage if there is any slack. > > Martin > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group > <quantumowners@googlegroups.com> > > *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com > > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 05, 2018 8:57 PM > > *Subject:* RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem > > > > Dave > > > > The car already had an escort quadrant fitted. > > > > Martin > > > > I refitted the pedal box and fully depressed the clutch. The is still > quite a bit of travel on the release arm. So looks like there is an issue > with the adjuster and or cable. > > > > Regards > > > > Chris > > > > *From:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com [ > mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com <quantumowners@googlegroups.com>] *On > Behalf Of *Dave English > *Sent:* 04 September 2018 18:11 > *To:* Quantum Owners Group <quantumowners@googlegroups.com> > *Subject:* [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem > > > > Hi Chris > > > > I had a similar problem for years, the clutch bite point being too low. My > fix was to modify the white quadrant to increase the radius to the cable > and increase the amount the cable moved. Eventually I fitted a quadrant > from a Mk3 Escort (81-86), Ford part number 78GB7L583AC. This was coloured > black (I don't think that means much). This had a larger radius and solved > the problem. 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