I was just agreeing with you Chris! The Finder Tree View and Column VIew are pretty much what you are describing, but would take up too much space with the same implementation like you say. Motion's three panel Library panel does the same in a much more compact space I think... Main classes on the left (e.g. behaviors, generators, emitter, replicators etc), categories on the right (e.g. blur, stylize, distort etc.), and items underneath... all in quite compact space... (and in a dockable panel!)

This is probably a bit off-topic - but you can set Motion to use the same shortcuts as FCP from the Motion menu... (Motion > Commands > Final Cut Pro Set)

I think the fact that QC is a dev tool doesn't make too much of a difference. XCode is also a dev tool and is a pretty good IDE...

I filed this as a feature request ages ago (As well as to do something about those rotary buttons!)... but won't hurt if more people file it I guess!!


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On 29 May 2008, at 17:48, chris plant wrote:

You say apple is known for its interfaces but motion and final cut have different shortcuts for the same things, if they cant manage joined up thinking in a suite, what hope is there for anything else?!

On 29 May 2008, at 17:25, Memo Akten wrote:


I think theres no doubt that the QC UI is really bad. The app is brilliant,
but I've never understood how Apple - a company that is known for
innovating UI (FCP, Motion, Shake, Logic, Finder, Itunes are all good
examples of taking existing concepts, and adding just that little bit extra user-friendliness) can still release an app with such poor UI, even in version 3!!. Dockable windows please! And yes, Patch Browser window with Tree View and Column View - Finder has it, why not QC!? (Motion's Library
Browser is pretty cool too).


On Thu, 29 May 2008 15:40:53 +0100, "Chris Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Just discussed this with a friend who's making a similar app to QC but for images (toolbox.app - toolboxapp.com if anyone is interested) and
has a similar issue to the QC patch creator box - a massive list of
patches to scroll through and find what you need in. For good
interface design, ideally such lists should only contain 10 or less
patches - QC with a few plugins and private patches shown can have
over a hundred. So, a feature request that I guess is good for
discussion here before being put in 'officially':

Split the patch creator up into a hierarchy. The first level could
just list "Composite, Controller, Environment" etc. Clicking on one of these would display the actual patches under each category, perhaps in
a pop up box (or maybe something like the panels view in finder, but
this would take too much screen space I think). Or perhaps something
like the finder panels interface, but only showing a single panel with
a 'back' button to go back to a higher level?

There could also be an extra layer in the hierarchy for any categories with a lot of patches (e.g. the filters category has a lot, and there
are a lot of blur, tile, light and colour effects). Perhaps in a
second popup?

For real screen-saving, the whole structure could pop-up from the
patch creator button. That would be great for working on a laptop, but
probably a bit annoying where you have a lot of screen space, so
perhaps both options (like the docked patch settings + separate window
option).

Any thoughts? Good idea or bad, or is there a better way?

Chris
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