Hi Patrick, Behaved for a day or two, now the problem is back. I’ll try to hunt down the terminal commands. If you have any tips, appreciated.
Jerry > On Dec 9, 2014, at 6:23 PM, Patrick Sheffield <psheffi...@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > Have you fixed this yet? I found the answer online a while back when I first > started experiencing this error - it involves some terminal commands to > repair the permissions on your user folder. I found the procedure online, I > can't recall where - I just googled the error message. > > If you haven't found a consistent solution, I'll look it up if you need me to. > > best, > > Patrick Sheffield > Sheffield Softworks > > On Dec 9, 2014, at 12:21 PM, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks for the input, Troy. >> >> I was a little sloppy in my trials and errors. My "fix" involved deleting >> the _spotlight user for the Desktop in Get Info at the same time as the >> ~/Desktop .DS_Store file. (Btw, am I causing unforeseen trouble for myself?) >> >> Are there any diagnostics I can send from console to help the cause? >> >> Jerry >> >> >>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 12:00 PM, quartzcomposer-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com >>> wrote: >>> >>> Send Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list submissions to >>> quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/quartzcomposer-dev >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> quartzcomposer-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> quartzcomposer-dev-ow...@lists.apple.com >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Quartzcomposer-dev digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Problem saving comps (Jerry Smith) >>> 2. Re: Problem saving comps (Jim) >>> 3. Re: Problem saving comps (Alastair Leith) >>> 4. Re: Problem saving comps (Jerry Smith) >>> 5. Re: Problem saving comps (Alastair Leith) >>> 6. Re: Problem saving comps (George Toledo) >>> 7. Re: Problem saving comps (Jerry Smith) >>> 8. Re: Problem saving comps (George Toledo) >>> 9. Re: Problem saving comps (Bruno Degazio) >>> 10. Re: Problem saving comps (Troy Koelling) >>> 11. Re: Problem saving comps (Martin Orpen) >>> 12. Re: Problem saving comps (Martin Orpen) >>> 13. Re: Problem saving comps (Bruno Degazio) >>> 14. Re: Problem saving comps (Martin Orpen) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:33:50 -0800 >>> From: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> >>> To: quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com >>> Subject: Problem saving comps >>> Message-ID: <f4bd56b0-6947-4288-aa4a-1b7e13522...@gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here. >>> >>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP. >>> >>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now >>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for a >>> round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the >>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh >>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jerry >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <http://lists.apple.com/archives/quartzcomposer-dev/attachments/20141208/e57ecb55/attachment.html> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png >>> Type: image/png >>> Size: 34008 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> URL: >>> <http://lists.apple.com/archives/quartzcomposer-dev/attachments/20141208/e57ecb55/attachment.png> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 00:36:03 +0100 >>> From: Jim <kurb...@gmail.com> >>> To: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> >>> Cc: quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com >>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps >>> Message-ID: <0106ffad19294a17ac1bdcffa99b7...@gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> >>> Hold Option + Any of the tabs that appear in the preferences window tp >>> access the hidden preferences. >>> >>> The options are System settings, Editor settings, and QuickTime integration >>> settings. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> There is a option in the hidden preferences Editor tab that will allow you >>> to disable saveless documents. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Jim Warrier >>> >>> Audio Visual Performer >>> >>> destroythingsbeautiful.com (http://destroythingsbeautiful.com/) | >>> www.modulate.org.uk (http://www.modulate.org.uk/) >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 00:33, Jerry Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here. >>>> >>>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP. >>>> >>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now >>>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for >>>> a round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the >>>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh >>>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Jerry >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com >>>> (mailto:Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com)) >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/kurbind%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> This email sent to kurb...@gmail.com (mailto:kurb...@gmail.com) >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <http://lists.apple.com/archives/quartzcomposer-dev/attachments/20141209/db67512d/attachment.html> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png >>> Type: image/png >>> Size: 34008 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> URL: >>> <http://lists.apple.com/archives/quartzcomposer-dev/attachments/20141209/db67512d/attachment.png> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 11:40:03 +0800 >>> From: Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com> >>> To: Jim <kurb...@gmail.com> >>> Cc: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com>, >>> "quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com" >>> <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> >>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps >>> Message-ID: <07c29ae7-3a77-4cea-aced-ce403d62f...@gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> what will that do? >>> >>> I also had this problem and had a comp crash in front of 250 people :-/. >>> when I rang Apple >>> tech support next day we rebuilt permissions and cleared out the >>> library/caches/ folder and all the problems seemed to go away. haven't used >>> much since but all the BS with not being able to save documents without >>> duplicating and saving to a USB drive >>> stopped >>> >>> >>> Best >>> Alastair >>> >>> Alastair I Leith >>> Useful Design >>> 0432 889 821 >>> 03 9480 5506 >>> 30 Birch Street >>> West Preston >>> VIC 3072 .AU >>> >>> >>>> On 9 Dec 2014, at 7:36 am, Jim <kurb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hold Option + Any of the tabs that appear in the preferences window tp >>>> access the hidden preferences. >>>> The options are System settings, Editor settings, and QuickTime >>>> integration settings. >>>> >>>> There is a option in the hidden preferences Editor tab that will allow you >>>> to disable saveless documents. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Jim Warrier >>>> >>>> Audio Visual Performer >>>> >>>> destroythingsbeautiful.com | www.modulate.org.uk >>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 00:33, Jerry Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here. >>>>> >>>>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP. >>>>> >>>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >>>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now >>>>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for >>>>> a round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the >>>>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh >>>>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Jerry >>>>> >>>>> <Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/kurbind%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> This email sent to kurb...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/usefuldesign.au%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> This email sent to usefuldesign...@gmail.com >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <http://lists.apple.com/archives/quartzcomposer-dev/attachments/20141209/31d4a63b/attachment.html> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 22:39:12 -0800 >>> From: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> >>> To: Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com> >>> Cc: Jim <kurb...@gmail.com>, "quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com" >>> <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> >>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps >>> Message-ID: <08e843f9-6c2c-43fc-8327-e3add2d57...@gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Thanks for the replies. I cleared Library/Caches and ~/Library/Caches, >>> repaired permissions twice, deleted user prefs again, disabled saveless >>> documents, restarted. Save/Cmd-S still generates the "The document could >>> not be saved” error. Though so far I can Save As and Save a Copy As, so >>> that's slightly better. >>> >>> ~still troubled~ >>> >>> Jerry >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> what will that do? >>>> >>>> I also had this problem and had a comp crash in front of 250 people :-/. >>>> when I rang Apple >>>> tech support next day we rebuilt permissions and cleared out the >>>> library/caches/ folder and all the problems seemed to go away. haven't >>>> used much since but all the BS with not being able to save documents >>>> without duplicating and saving to a USB drive >>>> stopped >>>> >>>> >>>> Best >>>> Alastair >>>> >>>> Alastair I Leith >>>> Useful Design >>>> 0432 889 821 >>>> 03 9480 5506 >>>> 30 Birch Street >>>> West Preston >>>> VIC 3072 .AU >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9 Dec 2014, at 7:36 am, Jim <kurb...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:kurb...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hold Option + Any of the tabs that appear in the preferences window tp >>>>> access the hidden preferences. >>>>> The options are System settings, Editor settings, and QuickTime >>>>> integration settings. >>>>> >>>>> There is a option in the hidden preferences Editor tab that will allow >>>>> you to disable saveless documents. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Jim Warrier >>>>> >>>>> Audio Visual Performer >>>>> >>>>> destroythingsbeautiful.com <http://destroythingsbeautiful.com/> | >>>>> www.modulate.org.uk <http://www.modulate.org.uk/> >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 00:33, Jerry Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here. >>>>>> >>>>>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP. >>>>>> >>>>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >>>>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right >>>>>> now simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the >>>>>> issue for a round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I >>>>>> think), the problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on >>>>>> the Macintosh HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Jerry >>>>>> >>>>>> <Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com >>>>>> <mailto:Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com>) >>>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/kurbind%40gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/kurbind%40gmail.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> This email sent to kurb...@gmail.com <mailto:kurb...@gmail.com> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com >>>>> <mailto:Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com>) >>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/usefuldesign.au%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/usefuldesign.au%40gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>> This email sent to usefuldesign...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:usefuldesign...@gmail.com> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <http://lists.apple.com/archives/quartzcomposer-dev/attachments/20141208/33158673/attachment.html> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 5 >>> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 14:55:13 +0800 >>> From: Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com> >>> To: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> >>> Cc: Jim <kurb...@gmail.com>, "quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com" >>> <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> >>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps >>> Message-ID: <5df8d0e1-33f1-420c-856c-311e93b43...@gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> call Apple tech support? occasionally you can still get someone really >>> knowledgeable especially if you they escalate the query to an engineer >>> level support person. >>> >>> Best >>> Alastair >>> >>> Alastair I Leith >>> Useful Design >>> 0432 889 821 >>> 03 9480 5506 >>> 30 Birch Street >>> West Preston >>> VIC 3072 .AU >>> >>> >>>> On 9 Dec 2014, at 2:39 pm, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks for the replies. I cleared Library/Caches and ~/Library/Caches, >>>> repaired permissions twice, deleted user prefs again, disabled saveless >>>> documents, restarted. Save/Cmd-S still generates the "The document could >>>> not be saved” error. Though so far I can Save As and Save a Copy As, so >>>> that's slightly better. >>>> >>>> ~still troubled~ >>>> >>>> Jerry >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> what will that do? >>>>> >>>>> I also had this problem and had a comp crash in front of 250 people :-/. >>>>> when I rang Apple >>>>> tech support next day we rebuilt permissions and cleared out the >>>>> library/caches/ folder and all the problems seemed to go away. haven't >>>>> used much since but all the BS with not being able to save documents >>>>> without duplicating and saving to a USB drive >>>>> stopped >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best >>>>> Alastair >>>>> >>>>> Alastair I Leith >>>>> Useful Design >>>>> 0432 889 821 >>>>> 03 9480 5506 >>>>> 30 Birch Street >>>>> West Preston >>>>> VIC 3072 .AU >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 9 Dec 2014, at 7:36 am, Jim <kurb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hold Option + Any of the tabs that appear in the preferences window tp >>>>>> access the hidden preferences. >>>>>> The options are System settings, Editor settings, and QuickTime >>>>>> integration settings. >>>>>> >>>>>> There is a option in the hidden preferences Editor tab that will allow >>>>>> you to disable saveless documents. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Jim Warrier >>>>>> >>>>>> Audio Visual Performer >>>>>> >>>>>> destroythingsbeautiful.com | www.modulate.org.uk >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 00:33, Jerry Smith wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >>>>>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right >>>>>>> now simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the >>>>>>> issue for a round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I >>>>>>> think), the problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on >>>>>>> the Macintosh HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Jerry >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>>>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/kurbind%40gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This email sent to kurb...@gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/usefuldesign.au%40gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> This email sent to usefuldesign...@gmail.com >>>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <http://lists.apple.com/archives/quartzcomposer-dev/attachments/20141209/4080618e/attachment.html> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 6 >>> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 02:01:49 -0500 >>> From: George Toledo <gtole...@gmail.com> >>> To: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> >>> Cc: "quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com" >>> <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> >>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps >>> Message-ID: <1527a12f-5202-46aa-9671-d9d1ca3a5...@gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Have you tried uninstalling all plugins? >>> >>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here. >>>> >>>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP. >>>> >>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now >>>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for >>>> a round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the >>>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh >>>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Jerry >>>> >>>> <Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/gtoledo3%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> This email sent to gtole...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 7 >>> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 23:08:56 -0800 >>> From: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> >>> To: George Toledo <gtole...@gmail.com> >>> Cc: Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com>, Jim >>> <kurb...@gmail.com>, "quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com" >>> <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> >>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps >>> Message-ID: <9578d6ed-d25c-4531-a0a4-a95d4d37b...@gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Wise suggestion, George. >>> >>> I might have it — I got a clue because I discovered I was able to save a >>> qtz as expected to my home folder, but the error was consistent trying to >>> save files to ~/Desktop and subfolders. So I did the terminal defaults show >>> hidden files, deleted the .DS_Store file and now it is working. I’m a bit >>> fuzzy why it worked, we’ll see. >>> >>> Thanks for the replies, I appreciate knowing the list is still a resource. >>> Jerry >>> >>> >>>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 11:01 PM, George Toledo <gtole...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Have you tried uninstalling all plugins? >>>> >>>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here. >>>>> >>>>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP. >>>>> >>>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >>>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now >>>>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for >>>>> a round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the >>>>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh >>>>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Jerry >>>>> >>>>> <Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/gtoledo3%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> This email sent to gtole...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 8 >>> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 10:57:29 -0500 >>> From: George Toledo <gtole...@gmail.com> >>> To: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> >>> Cc: Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com>, Jim >>> <kurb...@gmail.com>, "quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com" >>> <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> >>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps >>> Message-ID: <2a752d82-e625-41ae-93a8-ce6abe4ee...@gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Have you tried repairing permissions as well? That may be a good idea. >>> >>> A few times when I've installed a new OS on top of an older one, I've had >>> some file writing/plugin weirdness that isn't related to out of date >>> plugins. Sometimes the permissions just wind up wrong. >>> >>> I've had a few problems solved by pulling out plugins, and then simply >>> putting the Graphics folder back, to prompt the "authentication" response >>> of the OS...and having it wind up that after authentication, things work ok. >>> >>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:08 AM, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Wise suggestion, George. >>>> >>>> I might have it — I got a clue because I discovered I was able to save a >>>> qtz as expected to my home folder, but the error was consistent trying to >>>> save files to ~/Desktop and subfolders. So I did the terminal defaults >>>> show hidden files, deleted the .DS_Store file and now it is working. I’m a >>>> bit fuzzy why it worked, we’ll see. >>>> >>>> Thanks for the replies, I appreciate knowing the list is still a resource. >>>> Jerry >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 11:01 PM, George Toledo <gtole...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Have you tried uninstalling all plugins? >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here. >>>>>> >>>>>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP. >>>>>> >>>>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >>>>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right >>>>>> now simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the >>>>>> issue for a round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I >>>>>> think), the problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on >>>>>> the Macintosh HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Jerry >>>>>> >>>>>> <Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/gtoledo3%40gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> This email sent to gtole...@gmail.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 9 >>> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 12:03:40 -0500 >>> From: Bruno Degazio <lifemu...@sympatico.ca> >>> To: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> >>> Cc: quartzcomposer-dev list list <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> >>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps >>> Message-ID: <blu436-smtp17921356023e87a57c900e1d6...@phx.gbl> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >>> >>> I’ve been experiencing this since QC changed to Apple’s “new document >>> model” (I think it was QC 4.6, came with OS 10.8.) >>> >>> >>> It’s such an obvious bug I was sure Apple would fix it before long, but QC >>> doesn’t seem to get much attention now, so we’re still living with the bug >>> years later. >>> >>> I haven’t found a work-around beyond the one you mention. Or reverting to >>> QC 4.0 which uses the old document model. >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------- >>> Bruno Degazio >>> Faculty of Animation, Arts and Design, >>> Sheridan College, Oakville, ON >>> dega...@sheridancollege.ca >>> website: http://www-acad.sheridanc.on.ca/~degazio >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here. >>>> >>>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP. >>>> >>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now >>>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for >>>> a round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the >>>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh >>>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Jerry >>>> >>>> <Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/lifemusic%40sympatico.ca >>>> >>>> This email sent to lifemu...@sympatico.ca >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <http://lists.apple.com/archives/quartzcomposer-dev/attachments/20141209/fd03d631/attachment.html> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 10 >>> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 09:30:06 -0800 >>> From: Troy Koelling <tkoell...@apple.com> >>> To: Bruno Degazio <lifemu...@sympatico.ca> >>> Cc: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com>, quartzcomposer-dev list list >>> <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> >>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps >>> Message-ID: <69537216-c77d-48a9-a3e0-5702cdd73...@apple.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >>> >>> Does this still happen if you create a new user? >>> >>> Do the people who run into this use virtual macros? Note that some are >>> installed with the system, so it might not be entirely clear when you're >>> using them. >>> >>> It sounds like this occurs with any file, so it may be something that a >>> particular plugin or patch causes the AppKit autosaving system to get >>> wedged the first time, and then all subsequent saving is hosed. >>> >>> There has been one report of this (16011310) and it was looked into in >>> February but it wasn't clear it was this widespread. Any new information >>> will be helpful to get this fixed. >>> >>> >>>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Bruno Degazio <lifemu...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>> I’ve been experiencing this since QC changed to Apple’s “new document >>>> model” (I think it was QC 4.6, came with OS 10.8.) >>>> >>>> >>>> It’s such an obvious bug I was sure Apple would fix it before long, but QC >>>> doesn’t seem to get much attention now, so we’re still living with the bug >>>> years later. >>>> >>>> I haven’t found a work-around beyond the one you mention. Or reverting to >>>> QC 4.0 which uses the old document model. >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------- >>>> Bruno Degazio >>>> Faculty of Animation, Arts and Design, >>>> Sheridan College, Oakville, ON >>>> dega...@sheridancollege.ca <mailto:dega...@sheridancollege.ca> >>>> website: http://www-acad.sheridanc.on.ca/~degazio >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:jers...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here. >>>>> >>>>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP. >>>>> >>>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >>>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now >>>>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for >>>>> a round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the >>>>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh >>>>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Jerry >>>>> >>>>> <Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com >>>>> <mailto:Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com>) >>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/lifemusic%40sympatico.ca >>>>> >>>>> <https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/lifemusic%40sympatico.ca> >>>>> >>>>> This email sent to lifemu...@sympatico.ca >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/tkoelling%40apple.com >>>> >>>> This email sent to tkoell...@apple.com >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <http://lists.apple.com/archives/quartzcomposer-dev/attachments/20141209/866cf7e9/attachment.html> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 11 >>> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 17:36:06 +0000 >>> From: Martin Orpen <mar...@idea-digital.com> >>> To: quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com >>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps >>> Message-ID: <298132a4-10c8-47f7-8736-3479101ab...@idea-digital.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> On 8 Dec 2014, at 23:33, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now >>>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for >>>> a round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the >>>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh >>>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice? >>> >>> >>> Get rid of the ACLs associated with the folder that you’re saving to by >>> deleting the “_spotlight” user: >>> >>> >>> 1. Make a new folder to store compositions in >>> >>> 2. Do a Get Info on the new folder >>> >>> 3. Unlock the Sharing & Permissions panel. >>> >>> 4. Delete the _spotlight user >>> >>> >>> Compositions to this folder should then save as expected. >>> >>> -- >>> Martin Orpen >>> Idea Digital Imaging Ltd >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 12 >>> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 17:54:58 +0000 >>> From: Martin Orpen <mar...@idea-digital.com> >>> To: Troy Koelling <tkoell...@apple.com> >>> Cc: Bruno Degazio <lifemu...@sympatico.ca>, Jerry Smith >>> <jers...@gmail.com>, quartzcomposer-dev list list >>> <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> >>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps >>> Message-ID: <27f6a747-6bf1-481a-a599-2cb3583d2...@idea-digital.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 >>> >>> I can’t post to the list at the moment, so maybe you can forward this if it >>> works for you: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8 Dec 2014, at 23:33, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now >>>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for >>>> a round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the >>>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh >>>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice? >>> >>> >>> Get rid of the ACLs associated with the folder that you’re saving to by >>> deleting the “_spotlight” user: >>> >>> >>> 1. Make a new folder to store compositions in >>> >>> 2. Do a Get Info on the new folder >>> >>> 3. Unlock the Sharing & Permissions panel. >>> >>> 4. Delete the _spotlight user >>> >>> >>> Compositions to this folder should then save as expected. >>> >>> -- >>> Martin Orpen >>> Idea Digital Imaging Ltd >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 13 >>> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:12:57 -0500 >>> From: Bruno Degazio <lifemu...@sympatico.ca> >>> To: Martin Orpen <mar...@idea-digital.com> >>> Cc: quartzcomposer-dev list list <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> >>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps >>> Message-ID: <blu436-smtp1363cfd747fb234980c4ee1d6...@phx.gbl> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 >>> >>> Thanks for the suggestion Martin. Trying as you say, but the newly created >>> folder does not have a “_spotlight” user. There is however a user called >>> “Fetching…” so I've tried deleting that, but without success. I still get >>> the “Cannot be save” error. >>> >>> >>> Bruno >>> >>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 12:36 PM, Martin Orpen <mar...@idea-digital.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 8 Dec 2014, at 23:33, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >>>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now >>>>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for >>>>> a round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the >>>>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh >>>>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice? >>>> >>>> >>>> Get rid of the ACLs associated with the folder that you’re saving to by >>>> deleting the “_spotlight” user: >>>> >>>> >>>> 1. Make a new folder to store compositions in >>>> >>>> 2. Do a Get Info on the new folder >>>> >>>> 3. Unlock the Sharing & Permissions panel. >>>> >>>> 4. Delete the _spotlight user >>>> >>>> >>>> Compositions to this folder should then save as expected. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Martin Orpen >>>> Idea Digital Imaging Ltd >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/lifemusic%40sympatico.ca >>>> >>>> This email sent to lifemu...@sympatico.ca >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 14 >>> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 18:39:43 +0000 >>> From: Martin Orpen <mar...@idea-digital.com> >>> To: Bruno Degazio <lifemu...@sympatico.ca> >>> Cc: quartzcomposer-dev list list <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> >>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps >>> Message-ID: <4e495f03-41a7-4104-b8ac-a95b2a713...@idea-digital.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 >>> >>> On 9 Dec 2014, at 18:12, Bruno Degazio <lifemu...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks for the suggestion Martin. Trying as you say, but the newly created >>>> folder does not have a “_spotlight” user. There is however a user called >>>> “Fetching…” so I've tried deleting that, but without success. I still get >>>> the “Cannot be save” error. >>> >>> >>> Oh OK, on my Mac I was getting the same problem and deleting the ACLs fixed >>> it. They are inherited via a “_spotlight” user every time I make a new >>> folder on my MacBook. >>> >>> >>> If it’s another user you can use the Terminal to see if there are any ACLs: >>> >>> ls -le foldername >>> >>> >>> And then remove all the ACLs: >>> >>> chmod -N foldername >>> >>> >>> Best to test this on a test folder first :-) >>> >>> -- >>> Martin Orpen >>> Idea Digital Imaging Ltd >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list >>> Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/quartzcomposer-dev >>> >>> >>> End of Quartzcomposer-dev Digest, Vol 115, Issue 1 >>> ************************************************** >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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