On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 12:40 AM, Chris Laprise <[email protected]> wrote: > On 12/20/2016 09:10 PM, Jean-Philippe Ouellet wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Chris Laprise <[email protected]> >>> and the shortcuts proposed are more appropriate for editing a document or >>> database. >> >> Okay? So? I do not understand what this implies. > > Some are reminiscent of browsing or word processing: Ctrl+N, New document. > Del/Backspace, remove info. Ctrl+C, copy.
I acknowledge that this is the case, and still do not see what actionable difference it makes. Yes, we are using things people are likely to already be familiar with from other contexts. To me that sounds like a good thing. Are you saying it is not? > As Esc is often used to stop something in a wide array of program types (and > is intentionally inconsistent with other shortcuts), it seems appropriate to > stop VMs. Its small and far away from frequently-used keys, so with > qualifier seems appropriate. Esc currently closes the modal per-vm settings dialogues. I press it for that purpose, and I imagine others do too. To have it overloaded to also mean "stop vm" would be surprising and unintuitive. I do not like it. If anything I think we should make Esc close the top window too, and not overload it with any different behavior based on modifiers. > With file managers, terminals, document editors, I finish and find myself > wishing I didn't have to go back to QM to shutdown the VM. Excess running > VMs has been an issue with Qubes in general. I think a keyboard shortcut is a very poor solution to that underlying problem from a UX perspective. I think https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/832 is a better approach. > I like the general idea of a global Qubes shortcut, something like VMware or > Vbox use. > Even just something that brings QM (or its successor) to the > current screen/focus is good. Note that a Qubes-reserved modifier and a shortcut to bring up QM are distinct. The latter may use the former, but the former certainly has other uses as well. >>> Additionally, some global shortcut to Pause/Unpause VMs may be quite >>> useful >>> to certain users who examine the behavior of software. >> >> Can you elaborate on who would use this? and why? > > Definitely thinking about technical users here: Analysis of traffic, > malware, etc. Maybe an option that could be enabled. Okay. My proposed PR had Ctrl+P for pause. We can keep that. > Yes, I noticed some already. I don't understand why they are letting changes > through now. QM is supposed to be moribund. I've seen comments from staff > saying changes should wait for the new stuff. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ IMO I've spent too much time on these minor cosmetic improvements already. I'd like to get back to auditing stuff. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-devel/CABQWM_DsG2k87YyCz02n7j3oMe6gJn5Ru%3Dg8Bq39FcuNwxdRiA%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
