On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Unman <[email protected]> wrote: > I feel like I'm intruding on a personal quarrel here,
Err... I hope that's not how it appears. Ultimately I want Qubes to be better. If I am taking things in the wrong direction, I would certainly like to know! > but there's a bikeshed in need of some paint. :) > So - I like keyboard shortcuts: I use them all the time using the > Meta key. I don't use Qubes Manager much, so mine are based on Xfce and > custom scripts/commands. How do you do routine shutting down, etc.? > That said, I think the proposed actions are sensible, but the proposed > shortcuts are not. This isnt because they remind me of some other > application, but because they are ALREADY USED in other applications. > > In my experience, "naive" users of qubes get the hang of it quite > quickly, but still will sometimes find themselves typing in to the wrong > window. If this has never happened to you then you are better than me. > The problem with using shortcuts that already have a place in the > lexicon is that it would be relatively easy for them to be grabbed by > the Manager window instead of the intended target window, with obvious > unexpected consequences. Forgive me, but I'm having trouble understanding this argument. It appears to me that this argument applies equally to all applications as opposed to just QM. Yet, it is simply impossible for all applications to choose unique keys because there are only so many keys... So, why should QM try to choose obscure and unique shortcuts whereas other applications do not. (Or... do they and I've just never noticed?) I'm not trying to disagree or reject your feedback, I just don't understand why it's QM's concern. I think this discussion is worthwhile as the concept applies equally to the selection of keyboard shortcuts in the new QM as well. > That's why I would strongly advocate the use of a Qubes specific key, > like Virtualbox does. I am completely in favor of a qubes-reserved modifier too, and not just in the context of this proposal. Perhaps that should be addressed first and we table this proposal in the mean time? > Can I suggest that you take advice from one of the UX folk before you > take a final decision? Sure. Who should be pinged? Still @bnvk? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-devel/CABQWM_B8TTnD%3Da_MMtKBfHGmJ%3DZuCd-_n-U8qBz_YkDBHvQ95A%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
